http://prinnyex.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] prinnyex.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] artists_beware2013-02-24 01:34 am

BEWARE - Zorax89

WHO: Zorax89, frostybiggens

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zorax89/ , http://frostybiggens.deviantart.com/

WHAT: Icon Commission

WHEN: December 18th and February 23rd

PROOF: 1st case in December, final note containing whole conversion. His replies are red boxed since Fa's quote system doesn't work.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89ab.png

Sudden notes that I received February 23rd.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA2.png

Proof they are indeed the same person since his fa and da do not link to each other, not does his da have any of his art.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA3.png


EXPLAIN: 1st I’ll say, in the da notes, the quote he’s taking from me is from here - http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3993478/, a rant journal i posted months after the ordeal with him edit: Journal was deleted but screencap is here -https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/rantjournal.png , also the date was a month before he commissioned me, i saw the date wrong , and that had nothing to do with him. I had seen my friends being bothered about postings journals, been bothered on DA with a crit on a work I didn't ask for crits on (i was already in a bad mood and it was just plain rude) who I flagged as spam and don’t even remember their name, and various other drama things that had bothered me that day.

In my rules that are directly located in my commissions journal, I have it where I do not accept as refs or draw any mature art. That’s just how it is, and I’ve yet to have any issues with commissioners finding a clean ref or censoring them enough for me to use. I do not turn off the mature block so even if they try, I can't see it. I know other artists who also don’t do mature art and prefer nonmature refs. I make a very GOOD living just drawing as I’m comfortable. After the banter in the fa note, I ended up blocking him and leaving it at that. I didn’t post anything about it, I whined a bit to a friend, but what was about it. I moved on, whatever. Not every customer is the greatest.

Then on February 23rd, I saw I had received a note on my DA from someone i didn't recognize. they didn't say who they were, even after i said i didn’t know who they were, and you can see the conversion. I got very aggravated as you can tell at the sudden assault from some unknown person who apparently had a grudge against me. at this point, I remembered, I’ve only ever blocked ONE person on FA. that was zorax89 in order to end the conversion and prevent them from future messages. I checked their DA only to see no useful info what so ever, and none on his FA that linked back to the DA. then i decided to try my luck with the journals, and if there was nothing, I’d just leave it be as some random persons rant. unfortunately, I found the above journals posting of his birthday, both on the same day. they were indeed the same person, attacking me months afterward.

This is NOT a commissioner you want, and I’m glad I didn’t take his second commission. And I will not let it simply end with him attacking me and walking away. I've also recieved word that this isn't the 1st case of him harassing artists, and will update this post as screencaps and information come to me.


Current Mood: Annoyed

[identity profile] purpule.livejournal.com 2013-03-10 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The misogyny and "slut shaming" is actually making me so upset it's not funny.

[identity profile] thecreativepen.livejournal.com 2013-03-10 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who picked up on the slut shaming.

[identity profile] toscaterrier.livejournal.com 2013-03-11 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my god this. The rant was making me physically ill at a couple of points.

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[identity profile] panfe.livejournal.com 2013-03-11 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
The "Slut shaming" was toward something that was well warranted. Someone made a horrible decision to sleep with someone else's significant other, and then when she got flack for it (Both parties did, it wasn't just her) she played victim for it, and Prinny was commenting about how if you make a bad decision you know is wrong along those lines, you shouldn't expect everyone to pat you on the back etc.

Note, the original "couple" was in a monogynous(I KNOW I've misspelled that)/ closed relationship.
She didn't say all the details because the original family was in mourning and they didn't deserve anything further since the girl ended up doing more terrible things etc.

So it's been entirely taken out of context.

(edited because I can't spell for crap sorry!)
Edited 2013-03-11 17:55 (UTC)

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[identity profile] purpule.livejournal.com 2013-03-11 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It being "well warranted" is a complete matter of perception. I don't know the situation that was being quotes - but to me it sounded like the story of that young girl who committed suicide after she flashed her boobs (and might have slept with someone) because she was young, naive, and being black mailed.

So bad choice = she's a slut and not only doesn't deserve pity - but inferred that she deserved what she got.
(and also, there's a lot said about the girl here who apparently ruined the original, monogamous relationship, but what about the boy? Was he a hapless bystander?)

Calling her a "slut" lessens her as a person. She is now no longer a person, but a slut and a whore. I can't quote from the comments, as the journal's been deleted, but either you or prin called her a whore for something I completely considered unjustified.

That isn't taken out of context, that's the context that was presented. Disagreeing with the standpoint isn't not understanding the context. Whether you know this girl personally or whether they were just in the press, it is disgusting to repeatedly call her a slut and or a whore for her bad choices, as if to tar her existence as irrelevant.

I'm guessing this girl, whoever she was, was also pretty young - so she is to be damned for the stupid shit she did as a teenager (which, to be fair, I'm pretty sure we ALL do stupid shit we wouldn't want to be remembered for in our teens) and deserves all the bullying she receives?

Whether it was repeated that "prin said she DOESN'T agree with bullies" or "she didn't say she deserved it" - the entire journal's tone, words and responses contradict that.


"slut shaming" does not just refer to calling someone a slut because they're having sex out of wedlock.

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[identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com 2013-03-11 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, this topic is REALLY inappropriate for AB and fairly off-topic. Please take it to PMs if you guys wish to discuss this further.