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artists_beware2013-02-24 01:34 am
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BEWARE - Zorax89
WHO: Zorax89, frostybiggens
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zorax89/ , http://frostybiggens.deviantart.com/
WHAT: Icon Commission
WHEN: December 18th and February 23rd
PROOF: 1st case in December, final note containing whole conversion. His replies are red boxed since Fa's quote system doesn't work.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89ab.png
Sudden notes that I received February 23rd.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA2.png
Proof they are indeed the same person since his fa and da do not link to each other, not does his da have any of his art.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA3.png
EXPLAIN: 1st I’ll say, in the da notes, the quote he’s taking from me is from here -http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3993478/, a rant journal i posted months after the ordeal with him edit: Journal was deleted but screencap is here -https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/rantjournal.png , also the date was a month before he commissioned me, i saw the date wrong , and that had nothing to do with him. I had seen my friends being bothered about postings journals, been bothered on DA with a crit on a work I didn't ask for crits on (i was already in a bad mood and it was just plain rude) who I flagged as spam and don’t even remember their name, and various other drama things that had bothered me that day.
In my rules that are directly located in my commissions journal, I have it where I do not accept as refs or draw any mature art. That’s just how it is, and I’ve yet to have any issues with commissioners finding a clean ref or censoring them enough for me to use. I do not turn off the mature block so even if they try, I can't see it. I know other artists who also don’t do mature art and prefer nonmature refs. I make a very GOOD living just drawing as I’m comfortable. After the banter in the fa note, I ended up blocking him and leaving it at that. I didn’t post anything about it, I whined a bit to a friend, but what was about it. I moved on, whatever. Not every customer is the greatest.
Then on February 23rd, I saw I had received a note on my DA from someone i didn't recognize. they didn't say who they were, even after i said i didn’t know who they were, and you can see the conversion. I got very aggravated as you can tell at the sudden assault from some unknown person who apparently had a grudge against me. at this point, I remembered, I’ve only ever blocked ONE person on FA. that was zorax89 in order to end the conversion and prevent them from future messages. I checked their DA only to see no useful info what so ever, and none on his FA that linked back to the DA. then i decided to try my luck with the journals, and if there was nothing, I’d just leave it be as some random persons rant. unfortunately, I found the above journals posting of his birthday, both on the same day. they were indeed the same person, attacking me months afterward.
This is NOT a commissioner you want, and I’m glad I didn’t take his second commission. And I will not let it simply end with him attacking me and walking away. I've also recieved word that this isn't the 1st case of him harassing artists, and will update this post as screencaps and information come to me.
Current Mood: Annoyed
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zorax89/ , http://frostybiggens.deviantart.com/
WHAT: Icon Commission
WHEN: December 18th and February 23rd
PROOF: 1st case in December, final note containing whole conversion. His replies are red boxed since Fa's quote system doesn't work.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89ab.png
Sudden notes that I received February 23rd.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA2.png
Proof they are indeed the same person since his fa and da do not link to each other, not does his da have any of his art.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA3.png
EXPLAIN: 1st I’ll say, in the da notes, the quote he’s taking from me is from here -
In my rules that are directly located in my commissions journal, I have it where I do not accept as refs or draw any mature art. That’s just how it is, and I’ve yet to have any issues with commissioners finding a clean ref or censoring them enough for me to use. I do not turn off the mature block so even if they try, I can't see it. I know other artists who also don’t do mature art and prefer nonmature refs. I make a very GOOD living just drawing as I’m comfortable. After the banter in the fa note, I ended up blocking him and leaving it at that. I didn’t post anything about it, I whined a bit to a friend, but what was about it. I moved on, whatever. Not every customer is the greatest.
Then on February 23rd, I saw I had received a note on my DA from someone i didn't recognize. they didn't say who they were, even after i said i didn’t know who they were, and you can see the conversion. I got very aggravated as you can tell at the sudden assault from some unknown person who apparently had a grudge against me. at this point, I remembered, I’ve only ever blocked ONE person on FA. that was zorax89 in order to end the conversion and prevent them from future messages. I checked their DA only to see no useful info what so ever, and none on his FA that linked back to the DA. then i decided to try my luck with the journals, and if there was nothing, I’d just leave it be as some random persons rant. unfortunately, I found the above journals posting of his birthday, both on the same day. they were indeed the same person, attacking me months afterward.
This is NOT a commissioner you want, and I’m glad I didn’t take his second commission. And I will not let it simply end with him attacking me and walking away. I've also recieved word that this isn't the 1st case of him harassing artists, and will update this post as screencaps and information come to me.
Current Mood: Annoyed
(frozen comment) Re: Ugh, seriously?
She's taken everything into account, but people are also taking a lot of things out of context and saying that an A_B should have been placed against her, simply because she posted a rant journal. I understand that people are going to judge others regardless of what anyone says to anyone, but from a lot of the comments made here about her 'slut shaming' and 'spending money before work is completed' have absolutely no right and there is NO CONTEXT In where that was stated ANYWHERE in any of her journals, and are just personal, passive aggressive comments toward her simply because of her abrasive rant.
I agree she used a lot of heavy, strong language, and that it shouldn't be on a commission account, but saying that the beware is well warranted against BOTH parties is what I say is unfair, considering that a single journal post does not make for a beware, as does fraudulent actions and harassment.
(frozen comment) Re: Ugh, seriously?
In terms of your 'no context' line? I said above that the rant made me physically sick. Without the context added, it came off as suicide and slut shaming.
People have a right to feel leery about commissioning her based on a journal post. The same goes for anyone. Otherwise, this community probably wouldn't exist, seeing as its entire purpose is to warn people in a journal format.
Honestly, the artist was doing a great job of fixing their attitude and professionalism in this post before you tried to whiteknight them.