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BEWARE - Zorax89
WHO: Zorax89, frostybiggens
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zorax89/ , http://frostybiggens.deviantart.com/
WHAT: Icon Commission
WHEN: December 18th and February 23rd
PROOF: 1st case in December, final note containing whole conversion. His replies are red boxed since Fa's quote system doesn't work.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89ab.png
Sudden notes that I received February 23rd.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA2.png
Proof they are indeed the same person since his fa and da do not link to each other, not does his da have any of his art.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA3.png
EXPLAIN: 1st I’ll say, in the da notes, the quote he’s taking from me is from here -http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3993478/, a rant journal i posted months after the ordeal with him edit: Journal was deleted but screencap is here -https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/rantjournal.png , also the date was a month before he commissioned me, i saw the date wrong , and that had nothing to do with him. I had seen my friends being bothered about postings journals, been bothered on DA with a crit on a work I didn't ask for crits on (i was already in a bad mood and it was just plain rude) who I flagged as spam and don’t even remember their name, and various other drama things that had bothered me that day.
In my rules that are directly located in my commissions journal, I have it where I do not accept as refs or draw any mature art. That’s just how it is, and I’ve yet to have any issues with commissioners finding a clean ref or censoring them enough for me to use. I do not turn off the mature block so even if they try, I can't see it. I know other artists who also don’t do mature art and prefer nonmature refs. I make a very GOOD living just drawing as I’m comfortable. After the banter in the fa note, I ended up blocking him and leaving it at that. I didn’t post anything about it, I whined a bit to a friend, but what was about it. I moved on, whatever. Not every customer is the greatest.
Then on February 23rd, I saw I had received a note on my DA from someone i didn't recognize. they didn't say who they were, even after i said i didn’t know who they were, and you can see the conversion. I got very aggravated as you can tell at the sudden assault from some unknown person who apparently had a grudge against me. at this point, I remembered, I’ve only ever blocked ONE person on FA. that was zorax89 in order to end the conversion and prevent them from future messages. I checked their DA only to see no useful info what so ever, and none on his FA that linked back to the DA. then i decided to try my luck with the journals, and if there was nothing, I’d just leave it be as some random persons rant. unfortunately, I found the above journals posting of his birthday, both on the same day. they were indeed the same person, attacking me months afterward.
This is NOT a commissioner you want, and I’m glad I didn’t take his second commission. And I will not let it simply end with him attacking me and walking away. I've also recieved word that this isn't the 1st case of him harassing artists, and will update this post as screencaps and information come to me.
Current Mood: Annoyed
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zorax89/ , http://frostybiggens.deviantart.com/
WHAT: Icon Commission
WHEN: December 18th and February 23rd
PROOF: 1st case in December, final note containing whole conversion. His replies are red boxed since Fa's quote system doesn't work.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89ab.png
Sudden notes that I received February 23rd.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA2.png
Proof they are indeed the same person since his fa and da do not link to each other, not does his da have any of his art.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25869904/AB/zorax89abDA3.png
EXPLAIN: 1st I’ll say, in the da notes, the quote he’s taking from me is from here -
In my rules that are directly located in my commissions journal, I have it where I do not accept as refs or draw any mature art. That’s just how it is, and I’ve yet to have any issues with commissioners finding a clean ref or censoring them enough for me to use. I do not turn off the mature block so even if they try, I can't see it. I know other artists who also don’t do mature art and prefer nonmature refs. I make a very GOOD living just drawing as I’m comfortable. After the banter in the fa note, I ended up blocking him and leaving it at that. I didn’t post anything about it, I whined a bit to a friend, but what was about it. I moved on, whatever. Not every customer is the greatest.
Then on February 23rd, I saw I had received a note on my DA from someone i didn't recognize. they didn't say who they were, even after i said i didn’t know who they were, and you can see the conversion. I got very aggravated as you can tell at the sudden assault from some unknown person who apparently had a grudge against me. at this point, I remembered, I’ve only ever blocked ONE person on FA. that was zorax89 in order to end the conversion and prevent them from future messages. I checked their DA only to see no useful info what so ever, and none on his FA that linked back to the DA. then i decided to try my luck with the journals, and if there was nothing, I’d just leave it be as some random persons rant. unfortunately, I found the above journals posting of his birthday, both on the same day. they were indeed the same person, attacking me months afterward.
This is NOT a commissioner you want, and I’m glad I didn’t take his second commission. And I will not let it simply end with him attacking me and walking away. I've also recieved word that this isn't the 1st case of him harassing artists, and will update this post as screencaps and information come to me.
Current Mood: Annoyed
(frozen comment) Re: Ugh, seriously?
I understand that people find Prinny's rant journals a little scary
Maybe the words I used above were too gentle, but to be frank, it's terribly hard to take an artist seriously when they rant like that. It doesn't help that prinny viciously slut-shamed someone. I'm sure prinny has reasons to be upset but there's z e r o excuse to shame someone for their sex life, no matter who it was with.
People are actually commenting on the journal NOW because of this artist beware attacking her and blocking her
If they found this article through A_B, that's against the rules of this comm. That's pretty uncool but it can be acted upon by mods if they're made aware.
When you post a rant on fA, you don't want people to give an opinion about it, it's just a rant, and most likely, because it's public people will give their opinions in the end, but folks should realize that fueling the fire and playing devil's advocate is kind of a dick move on their part as well, just like 'Oh, that dog's mad, let's poke it a couple of times for no reason.'
This argument doesn't work, I'm sorry. FA is a public forum and when you present yourself as a professional there you should absolutely expect to be criticized when you are not being totally professional. I know I do it myself, I've been involved in various drama and arguments, so I'll accept blame for this sort of thing too. You can't toss something like that out there and go "This is only for my benefit, you can't judge me for this because we're all human". If you're running a business on the internet you have to present yourself as a businessperson. Rant journals of this intensity are just not appropriate for a business owner to publish on their page.
Now, if it were on a separate blog away from where she does business, I might side-eye her for the slut shaming but wouldn't bring her business practices to the table. It seems she's doing something like that, though, so good for her
Editing to add: about the attacking the artist bit. I can't speak for everyone, but I certainly didn't just jump on a harassment bandwagon. I presented my honest opinion, with proof of what made me feel that way. I think everyone else looked at all the animosity on either side and thought, "Wow, I've worked with so much more pleasant people, I should avoid these two!" Because let's face it, as sweet and intelligent as prinny seems to be, both sides were being very unpleasant, and just as an onlooker I was made uncomfortable.
(frozen comment) Re: Ugh, seriously?