http://friskecrisps.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] friskecrisps.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] artists_beware2013-05-01 11:21 pm

Beware: Capt Rico Sakara

WHO: Capt Rico Sakara

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/captricosakara/

WHAT: $30 digital art commission

WHEN: From roughly October of 2012 to April of 2013

PROOF: Payment sent: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/Untitled-2_zps406d4e89.png

Conversations on commission updates and attempts to contact: http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/May7th2012_zps824f0cd4.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/August20th2012_zps11a69452.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/Contactattempts_zpsc30a0fc9.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/July9th2012_zps1fac88b7.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/October21st2012_zps84bbe9da.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/October9th2012Paymentsent_zps4bd6ff75.png

1st refund attempt:
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/March20th1strefundattempt_zpsedaee6c6.png

2nd refund attempt and Artist_Beware warning:
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/April25th2013Commissionrefund_zps847a6b3b.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/April25th2013part2_zps53f0c7bc.png
http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt118/FriskeCrisps/April25th2013part3_zpsbcc50d6c.png

EXPLAIN: Basically, I had paid for a commission back in October. His way of the business was the customer put down half the commission price as a pre-payment and then pay the rest for the approved sketch. So I made the payment and waited for him to get work on it. I had him added in my skype and asked them occasionally how the commissioning was going and he'd always said he'd get to it soon. However, during the whole 6 months, he had only uploaded 2 pictures from 2 year overdue commissions. After almost 7 months of waiting, I just asked for a refund. He hesitated at first, but I finally got my money back.
My basis for this, DO NOT COMMISSION HIM! He'll take your money and make you wait for months on end. He keeps putting commissions off to write fan-fiction and play online games and when you try to ask for a refund, he'll try and manipulate things to make you seem like the bad guy. He is incredibly rude and I would not recommend him for artwork to anyone!

[identity profile] pyroro.livejournal.com 2013-05-06 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well in some cases I can understand mentioning Artist_Beware posting if the artist/commissioner or what have ya, constantly makes excuses, puts off the work and it may be the only way to get that fire under them to put out something.. I mean..I've seen others use it before. I can see how the OP was a bit abrasive in tone though. As mods of the community are commissioners allowed to mention A_B if it is at that final straw, past the paypal dispute 45 days?

[identity profile] kasune.livejournal.com 2013-05-06 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I have seen it happen in other posts too, but I myself don't like it. That's just my personal opinion though. I wouldn't want a commissioner doing that to me. If I had an issue with an artist I wouldn't use being posted to A_B as a threat.

Yeah it's a way to kick them in the rear and get motivated, but it doesn't always work. (Example, another artist whom I won't name has been posted here MANY times now, with no change.)

[identity profile] kasune.livejournal.com 2013-05-07 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
You do have a valid point, and I agree that posting artists and commissioners with bad behavior and ethic is justified by what you mention. If it gives them a wake up call, great. If it doesn't, yes, then it's a good warning to others. That can be seen throughout this entire community- we've had repeat scam artists posted here that owe commissions from several YEARS back. As a result they lose/have lost business.

However, threatening to post someone to A_B to rush them to get their commission done or give a commissioner a refund comes off as guilt tripping- which is why I personally find that it was not a good route to take, coming from an artist who has been guilt tripped before. It's awful and it is NOT a motivator. It adds more pressure and stress, as well as tension between both parties.

You could have said "I'd like a refund by Wednesday." If the artist didn't meet that refund deadline, you could THEN say "Since you didn't meet the deadline as asked, I will be posting you to Artists_Beware." It doesn't come off as a threat, but a statement- I see that as more acceptable. There's no pressure or guilt-tripping, but more of a "I have waited and given you time, now I'm going to take further action."

I'm sorry if I repeated myself at all, but I feel like I've said everything I had to say. I also apologize if I come off as rude or condescending- that wasn't my intention.
Edited 2013-05-07 00:44 (UTC)

[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-05-07 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Allowed sure, but is it suggested? Not really. Threats hardly ever work, and aren't entirely necessary. Sometimes they can be useful, but rarely do they change the artists ethics.