http://goddessofmadnes.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] goddessofmadnes.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] artists_beware2013-08-29 02:52 am

Digitt/HinaUchi - Commissioners beware!

(My boyfriend originally posted this, but was told that since I commissioned the artist, I needed to be the one to post this. Most of the content remains the same from the original post, with some sections as appropriate. Please let me know if anything needs to be fixed, mods!)

I realize that the onus was on me for not researching Digitt (also known as Hinauchi) ahead of time before commissioning her; it is my hope that by writing this and spreading the word in an appropriate manner I can help educate other commissioners so that they can make an informed decision on their own.

WHO: Digitt/HinaUchi (same user)

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/digitt/

WHAT: Chibi Commission auction (2 characters), valued at $30 (Payment proof:

WHEN: Payment made July 18th, 2013 - August 27th (date A_B article was written)

PAYMENT EVIDENCE: http://i.imgur.com/wydjAAE.png

(CONTINUE FOR SCREENCAPS/EXPLANATION)



http://i.imgur.com/jHS7G3j.png

(The link is of all the notes sent to Digitt - no responses from Digitt are shown because none were ever received. We never received any response communication from her until the day after the A_B post was made on FA.)

As an intended "surprise" for my boyfriend after a particularly rough week he had, I commissioned Digitt for a 2-character chibi piece, valued at $30. (Payment proof: http://imgur.com/wydjAAE) As the first note shows, she expressed that she would try to get it done "asap" to help his week improve.

In the time that passed, both from asking for updates and eventually requesting a refund, we never heard back once from Digitt regarding the commission.

On August 23rd, my boyfriend sent a notification to Digitt asking for this to be resolved, via a Shout.

http://i.imgur.com/6bl7Joa.png

Digitt responded with her own Shout, informing us that the 'finished' piece would be sent that evening:

http://i.imgur.com/euOfl5i.png

3 days passed from that point, and neither of us had yet to see either a progress piece, or a finished one. In the meantime, Digitt had also posted a journal excusing her disappearance for an entire month as being due to an FA suspension.

http://i.imgur.com/DL3gfoq.png



As one of the earlier images shows, my boyfriend warned Digitt that unless either a refund or the promised finished piece was sent by midnight on the 26th, he/I would be posting this. Based on you reading this, you can guess how that turned out.

There's not much else to say about this. A piece was ordered, payment was made, nothing ever came about, and Digitt was either unresponsive or outright ignoring attempts to get our money back or just what we paid for. It was only after multiple requests to get what we paid for, and after writing/posting this Artist Beware entry, that we received the completed commission.

IMPORTANT: We DID eventually get the finished piece, but it was given to us only after PommyN64 had written up and publicly posted the A_B entry on his own journal. Prior to that journal being posted, neither of us could get any response from Digitt besides her Shout I linked to above. Obviously I have no sure way to confirm if the two events are linked, but the receipt of the commission came in less than a few hours after the Beware post went up, and according to Pommy Digitt also pressured him over Skype within the same timeframe about 'stirring up drama' for her by writing that post.

Commission this user at your own risk. She appears to have an extensive history of drama, missing/incomplete commissions, and general immaturity.

[identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Well this is not surprising since there at least two other bewares on this person at least one is still not unresolved. Though since Digitt is hinauchi wouldn't the tags be added to the already existing hinauchi tag.

[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah you are correct, I will fix that.

[identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh and there's something else that I've noticed her SFW account Birdog. (which you can see on the front page.) is suspended. So wouldn't that mean the main account is evading a ban?

[identity profile] aerospiritual.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Geez, will she never learn?

[identity profile] mazz.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
In her latest journal is seems someone else is waiting for work: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4983802/#cid:35593454

It sucks to see artists just ignore those kind of posts like the person waiting for their aren't isn't worth an explanation.

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[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
- A month is not an incredibly long time to wait, I feel you were being impatient.

- You guilt tripped the artist with your personal financial problems when asking for a refund. This is uncool. Artists are not banks and you should have no need to explain your money problems in this fashion. A simple "I'd like a refund" really would suffice.

- Your boyfriend has nothing to do with this transaction, he should not be the one to contact Digitt whether in journal format, note, skype or email. He should NOT have posted that beware-journal in his fa either.

- The artist was suspended during some of the duration of your commission, you could have shown a bit more leniency to time constraint.

- And lastly, there was no initial agreement of when the image would be finished. "Asap" does not = "a week". You didn't make it clear when you wanted it, which in turn gave the artist somewhat free reign. So to put sudden time expectations on this commission was not the nicest thing to do as a customer.

In the end, Digitt should have contacted you regarding it and certainly this behavior is bewareable - but as a customer? You could have done some things much better.
Edited 2013-08-29 23:24 (UTC)

[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
There is no "Birdog" account on FA. Please do not suggest alternate accounts unless you have absolute proof it is the same person. If you feel she's evading a ban, it's best to contact FA admins about this.

[identity profile] aerospiritual.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
There is (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/birddog.), you just have to add the period after the username. It's even linked directly on Hina/Digitt's profile page.

[identity profile] lunasilvertail.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking he's talking about this account here that is linked on the front of Digitt's account (and it also links back):

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/birddog.

EDIT: Ahhhh, sorry. I didn't see that someone else go to this first. I don't mean to spam your inbox.
Edited 2013-08-29 23:38 (UTC)

[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhhh I see. Didn't even realize you could use periods on names!

[identity profile] aerospiritual.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep! I think it's kind of silly that they allow that, since you'll have to hyperlink their account every time as opposed to just pasting the URL.

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[identity profile] pommyn64.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand that it was not my place to do any of this in my s/o's stead, and I will fully agree that if she was that bothered by the experience she should have been the one to write it. I fully attribute that to the fact that I am more easily driven to action and less passive than she is at times, and if that was cause for fault in this I apologize.

I will, however, defend my choice to update/place the post on FA as I did. Not all FurAffinity members are aware of/are members of A_B, and conversely not all A_B members have FA accounts. It is my place to decide what content I choose to post on my FA journal so long as it is within guidelines, just as it is the mods' decisions here what content to approve as long as it follows YOUR guidelines. My intent was to make as many people within that community aware as possible.

EDIT: I have in fact been thanked in said post for making a user aware of the issue, which may not have been the case were it only visible here.

(Edited solely to add additional content: NO existing content was revised or removed)
Edited 2013-08-29 23:49 (UTC)

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[identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com 2013-08-29 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't need to be a member of A_B to view posts and/or comment. Just to post entries.

Two, your "beware" journal is basically a "call-out" and against FA policy.

Just because you were thanked, does not make the deed a good thing.

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[identity profile] pommyn64.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
With all due respect, that is for FA's moderation to decide. I noted twice in that journal that it was not an excuse or invitation to flame, troll, harass, or otherwise intimidate her, in much the same way your rules here dictate that quite clearly for all listed artists/commissioners. They are free to remove it if they so choose.

Please also note I said nothing about my being thanked as being 'evidence' that what I did was inherently 'good': I simply stated that someone who may not know about A_B's existence was informed through FA; nothing more, nothing less.

[identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Yes that's what I mentioned. Which is odd that the main is a porn account and the safe for work one is suspended. Usually from it's the other way around the porn account get's banned.

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[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I was not attacking your choice to post to your own private FA journal.

I am irked that you felt the need to do so - a bystander who had nothing to do with this transaction. That is my point, it was unnecessary and the links provided in your post on FA contain links that showcase cyberbullying and cyberstalking. (The tumblr links)

You, I'm sure, can understand why I'd frown upon that.

I am unsure why "being thanked" needed to be edited into your commentary. We exist here on LJ, and ONLY on LJ. People can find us without others promoting it in the fashion you have. Making AB formatted posts on FA will only confuse folks into thinking we exist there as well as here, which has never (or will ever) be the case.

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[identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Thats enough. This is getting incredibly off topic. If you wish to continue this, take it to PMS.

[identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually on the front page of the Hina/Digitt front page. Which is weird that the SFW account suspended and the main isn't.

[identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
That just means she hasn't logged into it to remove her suspension timer.
ext_212315: lol rawk (Default)

[identity profile] fauxfaia.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Not a *single* acknowledgment for a whole month? Not even a sketch? For CHIBIS? What the deuce. That's ridiculous. I don't care if they were suspended, a whole month of radio silence without even a single line to show for it is unacceptable. They can't even play on the excuse that they were suspended, your contact info is on the PayPal statements/receipts. Beware well warranted.

[identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I am going to ask you to calm down before commenting further. The beware is valid, just some people may disagree with some of your behaviour as well. As long as they express it civilly, that's okay for people to do, and leaving a dramatic comment like this isn't really going to help.

If you disagree with someone's opinion on your actions, that's alright too. But a simple 'Agree to disagree' should be more than enough.

[identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
OP, it is against our rules to delete comments, please read our rules on our profile page.

[identity profile] maxi.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Hina has a long history of drama but Neolucky pretty much summed up everything I wanted to say on the issue. Next time leave out the personal junk because it does come off as you trying to guilt trip the artist into a refund (whether or not that was your intent is beside the point) and from what I've seen no where was a deadline mentioned - ASAP does mean as soon as possible and coupled with her being suspended during some of the month you had to wait, it does comes off as being impatient.

And for the record, you two aren't making yourselves look any better :/ Beware well warranted for all three.

[identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com 2013-08-30 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
We don't allow deletion of posts, here. If you are sensitive to criticism (and I really don't mean this judgmentally), I recommend turning off comment notifications and not checking the post until you feel better. You can only control yourself, not other people. The worst thing you can do is continue to comment while you're clearly upset.

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