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artists_beware2012-04-24 09:21 pm
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Beware: Stellary/Absinthe/Inky
WHO: Stellary/Absinthe aka Inky/Nancy/Stellary on Chatlands
WHERE: main base: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/absinthe, commission transactions took place on TheTotemLands (prior to closing) and on Serenity Isles
WHAT: 2 "poses" from TTL ($8 each [edit, my email says $6 was sent for the one pose which was completed, but I believe the other two were considered $8 as the ref was $20, if I remember correctly]) and 3 poses on Serenity ($13) each; one owed TTL pose completed
WHEN: Commission began around June 2009
PROOF:
Original emails (TTL):
http://screencast.com/t/98PDW8uwbk7Q
http://screencast.com/t/SpFiEGVGxa8r
Commission on Serenity:
http://screencast.com/t/GZJ4p9OK5b
http://screencast.com/t/CxfB8Mzu
http://screencast.com/t/xCLRtCZpn3o
http://screencast.com/t/iHiYSMKO
http://screencast.com/t/SsxU1Umrnv
http://screencast.com/t/uAsmT3stm
Note asking for a refund:
http://screencast.com/t/7YVmwKOchp
http://screencast.com/t/aHgmSR1kfSgI(Her response)
Recent emails asking for an update/refund:
http://screencast.com/t/OBofSPV5phO
http://screencast.com/t/JBMwY5sc81v (Message was forwarded because I did not want to type it all out again)
Recent PM on wolfhome asking for information:
http://screencast.com/t/UtvhDTq7hFV
http://screencast.com/t/18kgPpRfLoQ2 (showing it was read, the pawprint goes from yellow to white when a message has been read)
Unfortunately I have no paypal screenshots of the transaction as the account I used to pay has since been closed, however I would assume that her replying she had received payment should be enough proof on my end.
EXPLAIN:
Back in 2009 I commissioned Inky for a refsheet of my character, however I changed it from a ref to 2 chat poses (and got a third pose later which was completed) and told her to keep the extra (as seen in first email) [also this proof is lost as TTL has been closed and I never thought to get screenshots of these PMs]. This art was never completed and I lost contact with her. In 2011 she posted a topic to sell poses again on the chat SerenityIsles and I contacted her then about the owed art and was interested in getting some new commissions. One of the owed poses was completed and that was all. Later in the year I attempted to contact her as she had posted another topic selling custom chat poses. At this point she said she would probably no longer do poses but could instead offer me another type of art in place of these poses. Unfortunately, life got the best of me and I was unable to reply for a few more months, this is my fault completely and not a lack of communication on her part. However, I emailed her again almost two weeks ago without response. A few days after sending the most recent email I forwarded it again to her. Tonight (4/24) I tried to send her a private message on another chatlands forum she was taking commissions on. She has read the message but has yet to respond.
EDIT:
Finally got a response from her. I sent her a second PM on the forum she is actively making poses on and got a response.
Private Messages:
http://screencast.com/t/yvRXGMQgPR6
http://www.screencast.com/t/GBZYreZBH0
http://www.screencast.com/t/gCZPexld
http://www.screencast.com/t/XEXp9xgvokjX
http://www.screencast.com/t/TuDQGNS4
For the record here is the previously mentioned email about being "banned":
http://www.screencast.com/t/sMfKfRKU
I will accept blame for the email not being sent immediately. I had written it up and attempted to send it from my school wifi on my phone but must have left the wifi zone and caused it to wait in my outbox until I was back home and using stable wifi. The choice to keep her from selling on Serenity was not only my choice, as stated in my replies, but the choice of several team members giving their input and opinions on the matter. She had taken not only my money but the money of other users on Serenity and they were, luckily, refunded.
And I managed to dig out the transaction in my paypal history:
http://www.screencast.com/t/B3AlkprkD
And her topic on the Wolfhome forums actively selling poses:
http://screencast.com/t/rSMhD49Eb
I was honestly shocked that she was treating me so unprofessionally because of a grudge about a supposed ban on her account on the chat I manage. Whether I had banned her or not I would hope that she would be able to treat me respectably and professionally as this is a business transaction between two people, when money is involved there should be no room for grudges.
Will keep this updated as it all unfolds!
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I explained ALL OF A_B to them, told them to visit the site, and attempt to interact with it, read it, know it and see for themselves that it was not what said artists said it was.
You know what I was told?
They TRUSTED the word of the artist (their very dear "friend") over my own (note: I did not reveal I was a mod here during this).
I was flabbergasted and in a bit of awe at the power of porn and force furry naivety that day.
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It's sad how people look past an artist's poor behavior and stick to their side because they're "popular" or they "think their art is really good." That's what a lot of folks are doing to Stellary.
I mean, when I first saw A_B I was REALLY intimidated by it and was like "WOW NO STEER CLEAR" but then I sifted through posts and read through tags and such, and my opinion did a complete 180. It does more help than hurt, especially since it makes people aware of scammers. I would DEFINITELY not want to be in a situation that some of the posters here on A_B have experienced.
EDIT: Adding to my post that A_B has also taught me both what TO do and what NOT TO do.
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