Beware: Stellary/Absinthe/Inky
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artists_bewareWHO: Stellary/Absinthe aka Inky/Nancy/Stellary on Chatlands
WHERE: main base: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/absinthe, commission transactions took place on TheTotemLands (prior to closing) and on Serenity Isles
WHAT: 2 "poses" from TTL ($8 each [edit, my email says $6 was sent for the one pose which was completed, but I believe the other two were considered $8 as the ref was $20, if I remember correctly]) and 3 poses on Serenity ($13) each; one owed TTL pose completed
WHEN: Commission began around June 2009
PROOF:
Original emails (TTL):
http://screencast.com/t/98PDW8uwbk7Q
http://screencast.com/t/SpFiEGVGxa8r
Commission on Serenity:
http://screencast.com/t/GZJ4p9OK5b
http://screencast.com/t/CxfB8Mzu
http://screencast.com/t/xCLRtCZpn3o
http://screencast.com/t/iHiYSMKO
http://screencast.com/t/SsxU1Umrnv
http://screencast.com/t/uAsmT3stm
Note asking for a refund:
http://screencast.com/t/7YVmwKOchp
http://screencast.com/t/aHgmSR1kfSgI(Her response)
Recent emails asking for an update/refund:
http://screencast.com/t/OBofSPV5phO
http://screencast.com/t/JBMwY5sc81v (Message was forwarded because I did not want to type it all out again)
Recent PM on wolfhome asking for information:
http://screencast.com/t/UtvhDTq7hFV
http://screencast.com/t/18kgPpRfLoQ2 (showing it was read, the pawprint goes from yellow to white when a message has been read)
Unfortunately I have no paypal screenshots of the transaction as the account I used to pay has since been closed, however I would assume that her replying she had received payment should be enough proof on my end.
EXPLAIN:
Back in 2009 I commissioned Inky for a refsheet of my character, however I changed it from a ref to 2 chat poses (and got a third pose later which was completed) and told her to keep the extra (as seen in first email) [also this proof is lost as TTL has been closed and I never thought to get screenshots of these PMs]. This art was never completed and I lost contact with her. In 2011 she posted a topic to sell poses again on the chat SerenityIsles and I contacted her then about the owed art and was interested in getting some new commissions. One of the owed poses was completed and that was all. Later in the year I attempted to contact her as she had posted another topic selling custom chat poses. At this point she said she would probably no longer do poses but could instead offer me another type of art in place of these poses. Unfortunately, life got the best of me and I was unable to reply for a few more months, this is my fault completely and not a lack of communication on her part. However, I emailed her again almost two weeks ago without response. A few days after sending the most recent email I forwarded it again to her. Tonight (4/24) I tried to send her a private message on another chatlands forum she was taking commissions on. She has read the message but has yet to respond.
EDIT:
Finally got a response from her. I sent her a second PM on the forum she is actively making poses on and got a response.
Private Messages:
http://screencast.com/t/yvRXGMQgPR6
http://www.screencast.com/t/GBZYreZBH0
http://www.screencast.com/t/gCZPexld
http://www.screencast.com/t/XEXp9xgvokjX
http://www.screencast.com/t/TuDQGNS4
For the record here is the previously mentioned email about being "banned":
http://www.screencast.com/t/sMfKfRKU
I will accept blame for the email not being sent immediately. I had written it up and attempted to send it from my school wifi on my phone but must have left the wifi zone and caused it to wait in my outbox until I was back home and using stable wifi. The choice to keep her from selling on Serenity was not only my choice, as stated in my replies, but the choice of several team members giving their input and opinions on the matter. She had taken not only my money but the money of other users on Serenity and they were, luckily, refunded.
And I managed to dig out the transaction in my paypal history:
http://www.screencast.com/t/B3AlkprkD
And her topic on the Wolfhome forums actively selling poses:
http://screencast.com/t/rSMhD49Eb
I was honestly shocked that she was treating me so unprofessionally because of a grudge about a supposed ban on her account on the chat I manage. Whether I had banned her or not I would hope that she would be able to treat me respectably and professionally as this is a business transaction between two people, when money is involved there should be no room for grudges.
Will keep this updated as it all unfolds!
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Date: 2012-04-25 08:02 pm (UTC)I really hope things work out for you ;~;.
Good luck!
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Date: 2012-04-25 08:32 pm (UTC)(P.S I love your character Mojito)
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Date: 2012-04-26 01:23 am (UTC)I'll probably stick to the forum PMs to make sure she can't just shut me out and ignore the problem.
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Date: 2012-04-25 09:47 pm (UTC)I'm very sorry that you're going through this, OP, and hope you reach some sort of solution.
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Date: 2012-04-25 11:07 pm (UTC)I'm sorry this has happened to you though. Here's hoping for the best!
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Date: 2012-04-26 08:04 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-26 09:42 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-26 12:42 pm (UTC)It was only the two poses for the last (almost) three years, but that's 3 years to finish two poses. Then one year to complete the other 3. In this time she's completed other trades, commissions, requests, personal pieces, AND gone and taken more commissions on WH and completed them (as well as character references to sell, more personal poses, etc).
I'm just so sick and tired of being dragged around I want it done and over with.
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Date: 2012-04-26 10:45 am (UTC)Isnt this against the rules or something to have that many account switches?
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Date: 2012-04-26 11:49 am (UTC)I've had a run in with her myself about an adoptable.
The price was set for 7$ but I asked her if I could put it on hold a week.
She agreed. When I noted her asking for her paypal she replied with "10$ to my PayPal"
When I questioned her about it she got an attitude about it with "fine whatever just send the money"
After that I refused to buy anything from her.
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Date: 2012-04-26 09:23 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-27 07:12 am (UTC)BUT with so many posts about her, I see that's not the case.
Sadly the altercations I had wit her were all through IM and her Livestream channel, so I have no records, but in short I won't be buying from her again and will toss my money at an artist that doesn't cop an attitude over non-issues and have better work ethic. 9___6;;
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Date: 2012-04-28 04:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-04-29 02:02 am (UTC)Prices: http://i45.tinypic.com/2jdltm8.png
Inky's Pose: http://i49.tinypic.com/ixqecj.png
And it seems like on her art thread on wh all she is posting is personal art. In a little over a week she's completed two poses for herself and a ref WIP. And that's only the things she's posted on wolfhome. For all the poses she's made herself so far she could have been long done with yours.
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Date: 2012-04-29 02:19 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2012-04-30 11:34 pm (UTC)It's a wonder she hasn't accumulated enough dislike from the furry art community to warrant a ban somewhere
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Date: 2012-04-30 11:35 pm (UTC)I paid her for a $1 sketch commission from her on her stream, and she never gave me this nasty attitude she's been known for (and yes I actually got the said sketch)
shame she has great art but poor business ethics
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Date: 2012-05-01 04:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-05-01 05:15 am (UTC)And then the "I work so much, I barely even have time to sleep, eat and shower. u__u; Let alone draw." Yet she always has time to draw for herself. Kind of funny if you ask me.
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Date: 2012-05-01 06:35 am (UTC)And yet you have time for personal art, the latest of which was posted 7 hours ago. How interesting.
Do the commission and stop complaining.
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Date: 2012-05-01 12:15 pm (UTC)http://screencast.com/t/bbjo6os6
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Date: 2012-05-01 02:56 pm (UTC)Yeah man, stealing money from people IS cool isn't it...you can get money and not have to do work!!
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Date: 2012-05-02 03:56 am (UTC)Until they have a concrete policy regarding scammers, etc. there's nothing we can do except hope that they'll take these issues seriously.
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Date: 2012-05-01 09:30 pm (UTC)I certainly hope WH and FA ban her ass. She's had a lot of infractions and shouldn't be pandering on either site for money, considering she rarely finishes the work and has the worst attitude.