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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

WHO: absinthe stellary

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/stellary/

WHAT: 4 full colour, fullbody pictures (1 is completed) and 1 flat colour bust. traded for 2 shirts totalling 42 dollars.

WHEN: Originally commissioned June 2011, problems started 3 months later.

PROOF: http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page1.png

http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page2.png

http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk7/fowolf321/?action=view&current=page3.png


EXPLAIN: Commissioned her, at the time her paypal account was closed. So we traded art for shirts. She is great to deal with right up untill she gets paid. Then the real fun begins. She has already stated many times that she does not care about artist beware as it paints an unfair picture of her. Well, I suggest to anyone reading this, dont fall for it. Find another artist!


Edit: I have since been put on her block list on FA, so looks like my refund or art will be quickly coming........
Edit: hmm, not sure what this giant space down here is about, I can not delete it......

Comments

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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

If my father died right now, you would not care.....
If your father died right now, I would not care.....

Throwing the death in my face as an excuse for such a huge delay is complete BS, and just that, an excuse, not a reason. a week or two, sure, 4 months? no.


I am not hiding anything, or trying to make myself look good, just letting the community know. Hopefully save others from having to deal with this.

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[tunavoice.livejournal.com]

Uh, wow. That response was super uncalled for.

Yeah, I would care. I would care enough to offer condolences and support. Even to someone I don't know, because losing a family member, especially one you're close to, sucks.

It isn't complete BS, if I had a death in the family, I wouldn't be able to work for a long time, and would refund my commissioners. Stellary should have done the same but her delays are understandable if that was the reason.

Nice to know you have absolutely no empathy for who you are working with. BIG red flag there, and I'll be avoiding you like the plague.

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[leahtaur.livejournal.com]

Agreed.

(And to take it a step further -- even if you truly don't care for some random person on the internet and their family, you can at least express condolences and not mean it, but sound like you do. It's one of those things you do to get by in polite society, like automatic pleases and thank yous, and I see no reason people can't do the same over the internet.)

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[mistresswolf.livejournal.com]

Agreed. It is like the answer to "How are you?" from a store clerk/person you are just randomly talking to should always be no less than "Fine!" even if you are really feeling horrible about something. Most of the times it is just an automatic thing for someone to ask to make small talk... but they really don't want to hear all about how your cat died and your hemmeroids and how you got food poisoning on the weekend, so "stuff was coming out of BOTH ends!"... which someone actually did tell me aaaaall about one time. In person, and I couldn't get away.

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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

if i walk into a store, the owner goes my 'father died last week.' I think 'wow thats random', I say, 'Sorry to hear that'. then I still buy my shirt. this is no different.

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[taasla.livejournal.com]

Except the shirt is premade. You're buying someone's services.

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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

my example has nothing to do with the shirt...... i give up. the thread is a bit off topic now. lets try to keep it on track.

If stellary wants to make a post about me, she is more then welcome to.

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[skittlewolf.livejournal.com]

It's not really off-topic though considering it's responding to how you acted in regards to the situation with the artist.

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[tunavoice.livejournal.com]

Actually, it is different.

When you're commissioning someone you're likely to be talking to them on a more personal level, as you're approaching them for the work you want done. It's not pre-made, it is CUSTOM made for YOU, the commissioner. You're hiring their services to create something from scratch. Hence you will have to communicate beyond a "hi, how are you?" and a "have a nice day." You have to be descriptive.

You're not in a shop, you're on a computer talking one-on-one to an artist. The aspect of buying and completing the transaction is no different, but the level of communication is.

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[mistresswolf.livejournal.com]

"Nice to know you have absolutely no empathy for who you are working with. BIG red flag there, and I'll be avoiding you like the plague."

I completely agree with you.

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[skittlewolf.livejournal.com]

Pretty much this. Just...wow. Losing a family member is a HUGE LIFE ALTERING ORDEAL. People need to take time to mourn, and it varies on each person. Some people take YEARS to be able to cope with the loss of a close person.

I understand OPs frustration and over a year is a long time to wait. The artist should have sent out a mass message, via journal or something, saying she was not in the right mind and to expect delays and offer refunds to those who didn't want to wait. However, responding with this NASTY attitude that OP has when responding to people commenting, is not going to change the situation for/with the artist.

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[wyngaed.livejournal.com]

It is always interesting when a beware about an artist also turns into a beware about the commissioner. >_> I would not want to work with the OP either!

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[tunavoice.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it's really saddening. Once I read the notes linked here, I got wary. Stellary's at fault in her own ways, but the OP could have had a much better attitude.

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[linksage.livejournal.com]

A death in the family is a big deal and something that usually calls for a sympathetic approach.

However, considering Stellary's track record I'm not entirely convinced that this actually happened. If she's lying, she's hit a new low in my personal opinion... Do we have anything aside from her word to suggest that this just isn't another excuse she's fabricating?

Forgive me for sounding cold, but one can only cry wolf so many times before I have trouble taking anything they say seriously.

EDIT: Please don't misunderstand; I'm in no way agreeing with the OP's behavior/attitude. Just throwing my two cents out there in regards to the excuse they were given, since that seems to be the topic at large.

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[tunavoice.livejournal.com]

I can totally see why you're skeptical! I mostly got firm on the OP because their attitude was really nasty.

Ngl if she is lying, I will be really mad. :/

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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

there we go, this is basically how I treat anything she says. Its just a reason for her to get you to pity her and go away for a bit longer. Thank you.

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[copper-curls.livejournal.com]

From what I can see, neither you nor Stellary has exactly covered yourselves with glory.

I agree that if Stellary indeed had a death in the family, the best thing would have been for her to contact her customers and say, "I'm sorry, everyone, but because I'm not in a good creative space right now, I ask your understanding that your art will be delayed." And, of course, to not take on any more commissions in the mean time. However, there's also a certain onus on customers not to act like unfeeling jerks, too, which is how you come off in your note, and in your responses here.

As a customer commissioning art, I would be extremely leery of commissioning Stellary; as a writer, should you approach me for a work, I think I would refuse.

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[jakejynx.livejournal.com]

I have a feeling you don't have anyone really close in your life, and that you've never lost anyone who mattered to you... It's kind of frightening, how little empathy you have.

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[foxwolf321.livejournal.com]

This is a business transaction. empathy has nothing to do with it. If she had sent me a note mentioning personal hardship, art would be delayed/refund given. then fine. I got none of that. communication is key. there is none with her, only excuses.

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[jakejynx.livejournal.com]

I'm not so much talking about your transaction, as your general attitude, and the responses you've had here.

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[jakejynx.livejournal.com]

Also, a week or two? For the death of your father?

Yeah, you've never lost someone close to you.

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[genkigami.livejournal.com]

Yeah no. Sympathy for you gone. A death of a parent is way more important than art. And the fact you say it should only delay for a week or two is shocking and heartless.

Even if she made it all up to scam you (not saying she did,) I'd rather play it safe than chance making things worse for a grieving person. Your lack of empathy is creepy and I wouldn't work with you.

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[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

Alright, this is getting a little out of hand and off-topic. I think the OP gets the point people are trying to make and we aren't really here to dogpile posters that we don't think they were sympathetic enough during a business transaction. Can we all ease off the personal judgments, please? I'm going to be freezing a chunk of this, I think everything that could be said has been said and it's going too far.