Mod Post: Shouts and other beware-ee contact

[kerstin-orion.livejournal.com]

Due to the excessive posting on Cashoo's page by both involved and outside parties, we A_B mods have had to give several warnings. One of these was a warning to someone who was a customer who made an A_B post about Cashoo.

This was an exceedingly rare and unique circumstance. We mods generally encourage contact between parties in a transaction. However, if a comment is harassing, or if it expressly mentions Artists_Beware, that is a problem.

LiveJournal has certain rules about use of its website for harassment. While we mods try very hard to prevent others from using Artists_Beware as a means for harassment, some people still see our community as such. Therefore, we want to keep mention of our site on beware-ees' pages minimal-to-none. This includes comments made by someone who actually has legitimate business with that person.

We understand that we have not made the above clear in our rules, and will endeavor to correct that shortly. We have not given any "official" warnings just for mentioning Artist_Beware.

And as always, harassment of any kind by anyone (whether you have business with this person or not) is not allowed. Period. Don't do it.

Interpretation of what is harassment is up to the moderators. It is not always black and white and we have to make the call based on the current situation. When in doubt, just don't post on the beware-ee's page. It's that simple.

Those wishing to discuss this issue are welcome to do so here.

Comments

[thecreativepen.livejournal.com]

I personally agree with this. I've been noticing a flood of comments on her DA page (not saying it's people from the community). But I can't imagine all of that negative attention is motivating her to change her ways. Not that it's an excuse on her part.

I think it's best for people to just continue to voice their disdain over the situation here, and not to be migrating to other websites to spread it.

[marus-puppy.livejournal.com]

I agree with this completely.

It's one thing to remark how disgusted you are with her (or any beware-ee's) behavior and quite another to go to their page and say the same thing, especially if you aren't involved. Quietly unwatch her and tell your friends to do the same and move on. It's the more mature thing to do.

[shukivengeance.livejournal.com]

Precisely! Stirring up drama on her pages isn't going to make her come out of hiding (quite the opposite actually) or accomplish anything constructive.

[houndofloki.livejournal.com]

I have a quick question about this.

I did (about two weeks ago) post a comment to Cashoo's DA reminding her of a missed deadline and asking for contact. I am not sure she is checking the Asana account and she is banned from FA, but still favorites art semi-regularly on DA. It wasn't an overly aggressive post and I didn't mention AB. Is this still considered harassment? I did post a warning about her to this community.

Just need some clarification. I'm not trying to be part of a problem or get AB yanked, but I also don't want to let contact lapse completely and DA seems to be her most active page (I don't have an account on Hentai Foundation or Twitter)

[kerstin-orion.livejournal.com]

Customers are allowed to contact the artist (and vice versa) in any way they that works for them, including shouts. The only time we mods have a problem with people (who do business together) talking via shouts is if there is harassment or if Artists_Beware is openly mentioned.

Since you had business with Cashoo, as long as you don't mention A_B and don't go in guns blazing, you're just fine.