Mod Post: Shouts and other beware-ee contact

[kerstin-orion.livejournal.com]

Due to the excessive posting on Cashoo's page by both involved and outside parties, we A_B mods have had to give several warnings. One of these was a warning to someone who was a customer who made an A_B post about Cashoo.

This was an exceedingly rare and unique circumstance. We mods generally encourage contact between parties in a transaction. However, if a comment is harassing, or if it expressly mentions Artists_Beware, that is a problem.

LiveJournal has certain rules about use of its website for harassment. While we mods try very hard to prevent others from using Artists_Beware as a means for harassment, some people still see our community as such. Therefore, we want to keep mention of our site on beware-ees' pages minimal-to-none. This includes comments made by someone who actually has legitimate business with that person.

We understand that we have not made the above clear in our rules, and will endeavor to correct that shortly. We have not given any "official" warnings just for mentioning Artist_Beware.

And as always, harassment of any kind by anyone (whether you have business with this person or not) is not allowed. Period. Don't do it.

Interpretation of what is harassment is up to the moderators. It is not always black and white and we have to make the call based on the current situation. When in doubt, just don't post on the beware-ee's page. It's that simple.

Those wishing to discuss this issue are welcome to do so here.

Comments

[rimpala.livejournal.com]

Isn't Cashoo perma-banned on FA? I don't see much point in posting on their page when they can't even access the account. The site probably needs to lock the page if they haven't already.

[thecreativepen.livejournal.com]

I personally agree with this. I've been noticing a flood of comments on her DA page (not saying it's people from the community). But I can't imagine all of that negative attention is motivating her to change her ways. Not that it's an excuse on her part.

I think it's best for people to just continue to voice their disdain over the situation here, and not to be migrating to other websites to spread it.

[trentxandrew.livejournal.com]

I wanted to reply to neolucky after they explained to me about this. I totally agree in this situation. I took a peek at her DA page and it's a hot mess over there.

[shukivengeance.livejournal.com]

Thanks for posting this Kerstin. Her DA in particular is a bloody trainwreck and it reflects poorly on all involved.

[neolucky.livejournal.com]

And we are still getting members reposting AB information over there, in fact I literally just had to warn two people.

Please, for the love of god, stop posting on her pages. Please please pleasssse.

[ladysnakebite.livejournal.com]

So, clarification on the rules please!

If someone has been posted to A_B, we're not allowed to mention that they've been posted about on their page?

[theredangel.livejournal.com]

How are potential customers (people who are about to be scammed,) going to know about her horrible track record unless people voice their disgust on her pages?

For that matter.. how are people going to find out what and how useful A_B is unless they stumble upon a mention of it on someone like Pirate's page? That's how I got here in the beginning, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I don't like trolling/harassing.. but in this specific case I think it's warranted. People are going to continue to lose money if something isn't said.

[spiffystuff.livejournal.com]

I am curious if anyone's tried to discuss with the LJ team what is/isn't harassment? Maybe I'm not looking in the right place but I can't seem to find much about community harassment policy in LJ FAQ.