artists_beware | I need advice regarding a troublesome user.

Hi all. I recently took on an art trade in exchange for a ref sheet of my character.

They got someone else to draw my character (since they can't draw themeselves, but wanted art from me), and I will be drawing theirs. I started on my half of the trade today via a LiveStream so the tradee knows good and well I'm doing my half. Their half of the trade was completed quickly so no worries there.

Well, also today, I found out that this person has a really bad history of being incredibly rude and demanding and selfish to other artists. Some people on Nabyn noted me and told me this and that I should stay well away from this person. This person has also gotten banned on FurAffinity and had created ban-evasion accounts which have been banned too. On their deviantART account, they also cuss out and complain at people who thank them for watches/faves. I don't believe this person is a troll, just incredibly rude.

Example: http://i.imgur.com/7xa5h.png

I also found out that this person is going around telling people they'll put me on here just because they think I was "avoiding them" for the last two days (when in reality I have been busy and not much in a IMing mood). They have also been going around saying I was a "con artist" and that I'm not planning on drawing them anything. The person claims I am his friend (I have only know this person for a few days!) so maybe if I block this person, they'll try to use the "I thought you were my friend" excuse. They are also a liar, claiming I said things when I did not.

Unfortunately, I didn't know this at the time I accepted his offer, otherwise I would have told them no.

What should I do? Should I finish the trade, and just remove him and block them? Or should I post them here? My friend also told me that he had a really awful experience with that guy as well and he wouldn't mind coming here and telling his half of the story. I have screenshots of the evidence proving that this person is disrespectful to artists and some chat logs.

EDIT: This guy is starting to make block evade accounts and note me and is making call out journals on these accounts. He is also IMing my friend and attacking her as well.

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I am honestly terrified to the point I'm crying idk what to do.

Block and ignore. That's all you can do. Report if they pull any stuff on FA or DA.

They probably assume you are involved considering the shout you left on their ban-evasion account.

I have to give you an official warning that you violated rule number 2 with that. It was evident you were aware of the post here in A_B before commenting on the ban-evasion account.

Someone noted me saying that they are also having problems with this person and may post about it here. I really want this person to be bewared on here, Marbles and I don't deserve his harassment and he's threatening making me an ED article, and it's making me harder and harder to do his art if I keep being harassed like this. :/ I'm really upset right now and I don't know what to do either. :/

Edited 2012-03-14 00:04 (UTC)

I agree that you do not deserve this level of harassment. There is no excuse for the way this person has gone about trying to get their half of the trade.

As things stand, I can only recommend ignoring them, stepping away from the computer, and attempting to find some resolution later when you are in a calmer state of mind.

The person who noted you is welcome to submit their beware for review; we moderators will evaluate it on the same criteria we use for every post.

I'm shaking, on the verge of tears, and so stressed out. I am frustrated because it feels like you all think I'm lying and making us look like bad guys when we're not and it hurts. We're upset, people this upset do make mistakes and we're not trying to annoy anyone.

I don't deserve this, and Marbles doesn't either. I'm trying to do the right thing but I don't know exactly what to do. I'm really stressed out by this and I couldn't even pack tonight for FWA because I am bothered by this so much. I want to get this done but I feel like all he'll do is snark off at me and edit it, like he has done to some other artists in the past as well. :(

If you're this upset, it's time to step away for a while. Perhaps post a journal saying you will be away in order to pack and calm down, and will address the situation in depth when you get back.

Go enjoy the con.

Then, come back with a fresh outlook when you get home. After all, most internet drama is dead within a week, especially if one of the major parties is unavailable for several days.

Thank you for your advice. I just now told my watchers I'll be gone for a while. I really do need to pack and I don't want stuff to bother me while I'm at the convention. I hope this'll cool over once I get back on Sunday.

Honestly you cannot just assume that, I commented because I know about this whole thing, not from the beware but because Alex is my good friend and has told me about everything, I do not even believe I mentioned artist beware. That person was breaking the rules, I do not feel I was doing anything wrong.

Even if I was involved that gives him NO right to say the things hes been saying to me, he keeps making fake accounts on FA, and I don't have a DA so I don't really know what I'm supposed to do.
If I post about it anywhere it gets screened or deleted, so I really don't know what you expect me to do here.

You were not involved in the transaction. You had already commented in the A_B post, proving you were aware of the post and thus required to abide by community rules. Considering the nature of your shout, I should have given you a temporary suspension from the community, rather than just a warning.

As I said, best you can do is ignore and block. The less acknowledgement you give him, the more boring harassing you becomes. Unfortunately, there's nothing else we in A_B can do for you, as you do not have an art transaction with this person.

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Kerstin is not making you out to be wrong, just that YOU are responsible for actively involving yourself by commenting regardless of what you knew, and therefore the consequences is yours alone to deal with. As much as getting caught up in the heat of the moment is not wrong as such, it still doesn't excuse the fact that you could have just silently reported and said nothing more.

Screened because you included the name.

I've given you all the advice I can for your situation, and my official warning for rulebreaking still stands. If you wish to discuss it further, you can PM me or email me at kerstinorion at gmail.

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