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WHO: Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).

WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".

WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.

As an example, this is art from five-six months ago that she drew while living with me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/jzodv.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jt5hj5.png
She's never traced while living with me because I had gotten onto her in the past for copying other artists.

These are the traces I've found evidence of:
First example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820740/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820732/    [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6595400/ [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i44.tinypic.com/s1kksm.jpg    [NSFW]

Second example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6894553/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6577848/    [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/25r1sh1.png   [NSFW]

Third example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898927
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6703170/
Overlay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/otfbcw.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/34r617b.jpg

Fourth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898413
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6057168/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/fljxvr.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/14m5abk.jpg

Fifth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898388
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6789179/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ppzyx4.jpg

Sixth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6807846/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5060030/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/yyp01.jpg

Edit:
Got shown these ones last night:
Seventh example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898399   [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://i42.tinypic.com/aekvg5.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ohis69.jpg   [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/2a7v9c4.png    [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/wsw93q.png    [NSFW]

Eighth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6811551/
Traced from:
http://i40.tinypic.com/zupcli.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i44.tinypic.com/350nrxh.jpg     [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/1042nn6.jpg    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/kdx5b8.jpg   [NSFW]

Almost all the traces have been of artists whom she's watching, the only exception being my own art.

Suspected traces:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6852690/       [NSFW]
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898425/    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/xdruq0.jpg (from 2010)       [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/14kifzn.jpg (from 2010)     [NSFW]

There were a few others that were TCBY commissions that I am certain were traced, but I never saved the files.

As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.

Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.

Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.

Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

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Since this is rather long due to the spacing, I'd like to ask that you insert an LJ cut.

I don't know how to do that, can you tell me how?

Sure. There are two ways to do it. Edit the entry, then either on the Rich Text editor highlight the body of the post then click the Livejournal Cut button (it's around the middle of the bar, looks like two horizontal lines then a third squiggly one underneath them) or in the HTML editor put < lj-cut text="Read more" > before the text you want to hide, and put < /lj-cut > (remove the spaces around the <> brackets) at the end.

Edited 2011-11-26 02:53 (UTC)

Can you put NSFW warnings on your evidence please?

I gotta admit... one back line is kind of a stretch. Some of the other examples I can kinda buy but idk. I guess I'm a little skeptical of "they traced a back line" or "they traced a buttcheek."

Sorry about that, I've been sick and didn't even think about it.

As for the way she traces, a lot of it is known as "frankensteining", trace parts of the image, rotate it, trace another part, trace the torso and then draw your own limbs, etc etc.

I'd also just suggest (due to the amount of links) to make them hyperlinks so people don't have to copy/paste every one <3

xx

Thank you! Went ahead and fixed it

Thanks I appreciate it!

Okay, they should be clickable now.

I would screenshot her drawings and post those instead since she's most likely going to delete them soon.

Also, http://i40.tinypic.com/m75czn.jpg has been deleted from tinypic.

Holy cow. Is this Tracing Awareness Month? So many people are getting caught recently, it's just... shocking.

You also should put NSFW on the suspected traces.

I reuploaded and replaced the link, and put a general NSFW warning above all the linkings.

Thank you. :)

I'm not sure how much this bothers me. It's far enough from the original work, I'm not sure I'd call it derivative work, even if we knew 100% that it was traced.

Looks pretty solid from the overlays. I'm interested to hear the other side.

This whole thing feels a little stretched to me in most cases. In a few I'm not sure I even see the "traced" lines.

I'm sorry, I'm not wholly convinced this is tracing. As far as I can tell it could be referential (how does this person handle a post like this?), but I'm not buying that it's traced, or if it is that it's enough to even be copyright infringement.

I don't really see 1 and 2, but 5-8 are really clear and obvious from my standpoint. 3 and 4 I can see what you see, but other are definitely gonna say you're stretching too much there.

I understand the "frankensteining" and how frustrating it is because it's not ever going to be perfectly clear how much, if any, is actually traced - plus when people think "trace" they think full, and don't realize that partial traces are just as common if no more so. I think her gallery is a little inconsistent too especially with proportions and her ability to draw the form... some of her stuff is so perfectly drawn but other stuff looks like old work or something.

From what you and some others have posted previously about her personality I guess it's not a stretch to think that she's doing this. I hope more definitive proof can be had so you don't get accused of letting your feelings against her blind you or something.

I'm not saying anything about copyright infringement, I just think people should be warned that they are buying mostly traced art. In many of the cases, the lines match perfectly (the ones off mine, the shoulder and ribcage off one of Dipper's, the back and stomach off another of Dipper's, the back and stomach off Shopenhauer's). I can provide more overlays to show differing opacity's and how perfectly they line up if necessary.

I actually didn't want to post here initially because I was concerned that people would attack me, assuming that this was some personal vendetta. I was asked to do so by several people whom I showed the overlays to.

Like I said, I see what you're seeing too. Also just looking at the four suspected traes the inconsistencies in her skills seem really apparent. :I

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I agree with you. Some of the lines appear to line up, but overall the images are different enough from each other that I wouldn't connect the original with the "trace," except maybe eight, but likely because it's mostly the same pose in both images.

I'm going to have to agree with you for the most part,

I'm sorry, can you give me the numbers you're referring to me?

I can see what you're looking at, but I'm just still not 100% convinced. They seem like general enough areas that it could be chance or reference instead of tracing. Besides, why would any one trace the easier parts of a drawing? In the eighth drawing (with the foot, probably the hardest thing to draw you have an overlay of), I'm noticing in every single overlay how much they don't line up line for line.

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