[identity profile] spookytreats.livejournal.com
WHO: Wonderfullyg

WHERE:
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/wonderfullyg/ Her main account

She is also found on these sites
https://inkbunny.net/WonderfullyG
http://wonderfully-gorgeous.deviantart.com/
https://www.weasyl.com/profile/wonderfullyg

WHAT: WonderfullyG has been tracing art for some time. Most of them are just traced from google images and uploaded on her websites as Preposes or YCH auctions.

WHEN:  In april I discovered she was tracing art and selling it to people (Which I will link below). I submited a report ticket to FA but as usual they did nothing. A few months ago she was tracing an artists canine face http://www.furaffinity.net/view/9803068/ . I contacted the artist whom brought up this issue with wonderfullyG. The artist told me that wonderfullyg claimed she did not trace (which with image overlay proved that was a lie). The artist warned her not to trace her art again . She DID take down all the art she sold with those faces so I unfortunately do not have any examples. Currently she is selling halloween preposes traced from google costumes.

PROOF: Fist I'll put the pictures of the art I fount in april. Below are all the ones she has sold to people.

WARNING! ALL THE LINKS BELOW ARE NSFW!!  I'm using dropbox links in case the images are deleted from FA.
also please ignore the search words in the google search box. I was looking for the other pictures lol.

Here are the images of overlay for proof

NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/q5we3vb82tmjwen/trace2.png
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/wa8sonifk241uvl/tent.png

 These are the images she sold traced.
They are repedative but I thought they are nessicary to see the extent of how many she sold of just two traces.

NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/2pdmq4wieadcwxf/proof1.jpg
NSFW-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/xysm6h2dd068evd/proof4.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/ud6wvxh0tb7whob/proof3.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/8hxpea76d1z45t7/proof2.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/a45vksiiwixma1u/proof5.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/q33h9k8p3bam14c/proof6.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/06pt43tijh4u5au/proof7.jpg
NSFW-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/ijsgm6kvri5yolu/proof8.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/m7jj306guoe6n59/proof9.jpg
NSFW-  https://www.dropbox.com/s/82thx1jq9bbigwu/proof10.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/opv1qepfltgzz9c/proof11.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/azu5gnsvfm8vbg2/proof12.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/cjf5n2vq86xfvlu/proof13.jpg
NSFW- https://www.dropbox.com/s/rofcwubqcdwyr95/proof14.jpg

Her new halloween preposes and the pictures to what she traced.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/11618195/ The preposes

http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing?.out=jpg&size=l&tid=45407264
http://images.celebrateexpress.com/mgen/merchandiser/61796.jpg

I didn't bother searching for the other halloween costumes. I figured two examples are good enough.


I just thought everyone should know about this. Personally as an artist I am absolutely offended by what this girl is doing. She was warned once by someone and clearly hasn't learned her lesson. I believe most of her gallery is traced art. I just haven't put forth the time to bother looking for the originals. Please beware if you bid/commission or buy from her.
[identity profile] cyiakanami.livejournal.com
So I wanted to start off saying, I've seen some comments vary across the internet on pose copyright/trademark and usage and it seems a lot of people are confused about someone's rights ect. I am sort of in that latter. 

I went searching AB and google and couldn't find any good citations of legal standing on if poses and "image concepts" are legally bound as are say trademarked characters or artists legal rights to their art and came up dry on both. 
Long story short, I had a commissioner today note me on FA stating someone noticed the pose reference picture that we used on one of their commissions from me. Which would be fine by all means, except this person went on to state I was ripping their friend's art off and it was illegal to use their friends picture as a pose reference and concept for their commission and was pointing out that they would be infuriated if someone did that to them. (Commissioner feigned not knowing about anything on the reference for fear of a drama storm, which is fine by me. I also didn't reply to this person because I wanted to be 110% sure in what I tell them is backed up law and not also start unnecessary drama.) I've also added a link back to the original image we used for the commission pose reference in my fa gallery.

In short, my questions would be, is it ok to reference other artist's art for pose reference whether in personal art or commissioned art if the commissioner requests it? Should we link back to the picture(s) we referenced just the pose from? Are poses and or "concepts of the image" legal to use as reference or do we need to ask the artists permission first?

(Clarification of "concept of image" I'm speaking of would be, a person skate boarding, an android women kissing someone, two characters in a staring look, ect as a few examples off the top of my head right now.)

Thanks for your time.

*EDIT* I wanted to point out, that I think everyone has been looking at the wrong submission. I have an idea of which one you are looking at and have credited back to the original reference. And will be doing so from now on. I appreciate all the feed back and honestly had no idea had to reference back to what pictures I was using for poses. I shall do this from now on. I'll also be adding in my tos about commissioners and referencing poses ect. The submission I am talking about was done middle I think of last year so you would have to do some digging to find that one. And I've already referenced back to that pose on it. 
I would rather not post a link to the image in question in public for fear of naming my commissioner without their permission. If anyone would like to see the two images, please message me privately and I can link to them for you. Thanks again for your help!
[identity profile] thatgoatdude.livejournal.com

So. I entered a contest on a deviantart.com which was based around the Fullmetal Alchemist character, Hohenheim. The first place contest winner was determined, but it was a three way tie between second and third place. I was one of the three.

Here are the two entries I was competing with:

1. Entry 1
2. Entry 2

Anyway, I soon got a post on facebook from the admin of the group who was hosting the contest. She said that someone evidently reported that one of the contestants had cheated by tracing the image! That person was disqualified without any doubts or hesitation.

Me and some friends were goofing off when I told them that one of the entries had traced artwork. So, jokingly, I started to examine entry 2 for any tracing as well. It turns out... It was also influence to copying. I had used an image in my artwork for reference for how the character looked, and I thought it looked suspiciously like the reference used in my image. Well it turns out, entry 2 had traced the very reference I used. 

My Reference
Entry 2

Here's a direct comparison I made:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7499135362_4f39af2dc9_b.jpg

Anyway! I decided to report this... I was already confirmed third place, which was basically a single prize artist so I was happy since third and second place were the same prize and first place had already been determined. I was happy with being third! But I wasn't happy that this artist was cheating someone else out of a prize which otherwise could be given to someone who had a completely original work.

So. I did. And this was the conversation I had between the admin in charge, (I also included the original facebook post that told me there was cheating going on in the first place.)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7504269712_4ec070aec5_k.jpg

The admin ultimately decided to ask the entry artist if he traced...to which he replied that he only used it as reference... Tell me--if someone was going to ask a cheater if they cheated--what would he say if a prize and his reputation was on the line? 

Anyway... I'm not sure what to do... I'm just confused and feeling strange about the entire thing... Any advice would be helpful. Thank you!

[identity profile] thatgoatdude.livejournal.com

So. I entered a contest on a deviantart.com which was based around the Fullmetal Alchemist character, Hohenheim. The first place contest winner was determined, but it was a three way tie between second and third place. I was one of the three.

Here are the two entries I was competing with:

1. Entry 1
2. Entry 2

Anyway, I soon got a post on facebook from the admin of the group who was hosting the contest. She said that someone evidently reported that one of the contestants had cheated by tracing the image! That person was disqualified without any doubts or hesitation.

Me and some friends were goofing off when I told them that one of the entries had traced artwork. So, jokingly, I started to examine entry 2 for any tracing as well. It turns out... It was also influence to copying. I had used an image in my artwork for reference for how the character looked, and I thought it looked suspiciously like the reference used in my image. Well it turns out, entry 2 had traced the very reference I used. 

My Reference
Entry 2

Here's a direct comparison I made:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7278/7499135362_4f39af2dc9_b.jpg

Anyway! I decided to report this... I was already confirmed third place, which was basically a single prize artist so I was happy since third and second place were the same prize and first place had already been determined. I was happy with being third! But I wasn't happy that this artist was cheating someone else out of a prize which otherwise could be given to someone who had a completely original work.

So. I did. And this was the conversation I had between the admin in charge, (I also included the original facebook post that told me there was cheating going on in the first place.)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7108/7504269712_4ec070aec5_k.jpg

The admin ultimately decided to ask the entry artist if he traced...to which he replied that he only used it as reference... Tell me--if someone was going to ask a cheater if they cheated--what would he say if a prize and his reputation was on the line? 

Anyway... I'm not sure what to do... I'm just confused and feeling strange about the entire thing... Any advice would be helpful. Thank you!

xX-Noxy-Xx

Feb. 28th, 2012 04:40 pm
[identity profile] trunchbull.livejournal.com

I was told to post this on here by a member of the Art Theft community. Recently, it’s been brought to my attention that a certain FA/DA user traces/greatly copies Jeremy Bernal’s artwork. Normally I wouldn’t be taking it to this level, but instead of giving credit to the original artist like I kindly ask, they go on a rage, delete all of their FA gallery, and become instantly hostile—her sister and her. She tried to lie and say “they were sketches from long ago” even though the ones that line up exactly are from 2010+. Even going so far as to write slander about me that I steal artwork, when none of my gallery has stolen art.


Read more... )

xX-Noxy-Xx

Feb. 28th, 2012 04:40 pm
[identity profile] trunchbull.livejournal.com

I was told to post this on here by a member of the Art Theft community. Recently, it’s been brought to my attention that a certain FA/DA user traces/greatly copies Jeremy Bernal’s artwork. Normally I wouldn’t be taking it to this level, but instead of giving credit to the original artist like I kindly ask, they go on a rage, delete all of their FA gallery, and become instantly hostile—her sister and her. She tried to lie and say “they were sketches from long ago” even though the ones that line up exactly are from 2010+. Even going so far as to write slander about me that I steal artwork, when none of my gallery has stolen art.


Read more... )

xX-Noxy-Xx

Feb. 28th, 2012 04:40 pm
[identity profile] trunchbull.livejournal.com

I was told to post this on here by a member of the Art Theft community. Recently, it’s been brought to my attention that a certain FA/DA user traces/greatly copies Jeremy Bernal’s artwork. Normally I wouldn’t be taking it to this level, but instead of giving credit to the original artist like I kindly ask, they go on a rage, delete all of their FA gallery, and become instantly hostile—her sister and her. She tried to lie and say “they were sketches from long ago” even though the ones that line up exactly are from 2010+. Even going so far as to write slander about me that I steal artwork, when none of my gallery has stolen art.


Read more... )

[identity profile] thowra-egypt.livejournal.com
WHO: "DragoArt" on DeviantART, authoress of Drago Art dot com Dawn Donald

WHERE: DeviantART.com and DragoArt.com

WHAT: Dawn Donald, famous authoress of the tutorial website DragoArt.com, has been revealed to be a tracer. I'm not sure if she has been posted here yet, but i did an hour-long sweep of the community before posting and i didn't see anything.

WHEN: The majority of her tracings of her tutorials happened before 2010

PROOF: Here is a website review: http://www.helium.com/items/2269038-website-review-dragoartcom

A journal deleted by the author about her tracings and showing overlays: http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8526/neondragonondeviantart0.png
A note, written by a "Dren Harrison" who is, in fact, Dawn under an alias as discovered by outside sources: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3186/snarkyreply.jpg
Dawn being immature in the face of a few members of deviantART accusing her of tracing: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/271510684/2323496833
Dawn attacking the artist who posted the journal: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/274827387/2332014820

EXPLAIN:  one of my friends one day posted me a link to their argument against her http://comments.deviantart.com/1/271510684/2323496833 Pointing out that this Dawn Donald, DragoArt @ dA, traces. Later that day she noted NeonDragon about their similar names, which led to the journal posted above. Dawn threatened NeonDragon with a lawsuit, under the reasoning that she was "slandering her name and character", when in fact that Dawn had copied Neon's tutorial style in the first place.
Earlier today, i was visiting the site of PortConMaine to check  the dates for a family member when i saw that she was going to be a guest there. I immediately emailed the staff and i am awaiting their reply. She also does commissions, and i suggest deffo NOT commissioning her, although not all her recent work has been traced, just the majority. She is immature and annoying to communicate with.


[identity profile] thowra-egypt.livejournal.com
WHO: "DragoArt" on DeviantART, authoress of Drago Art dot com Dawn Donald

WHERE: DeviantART.com and DragoArt.com

WHAT: Dawn Donald, famous authoress of the tutorial website DragoArt.com, has been revealed to be a tracer. I'm not sure if she has been posted here yet, but i did an hour-long sweep of the community before posting and i didn't see anything.

WHEN: The majority of her tracings of her tutorials happened before 2010

PROOF: Here is a website review: http://www.helium.com/items/2269038-website-review-dragoartcom

A journal deleted by the author about her tracings and showing overlays: http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8526/neondragonondeviantart0.png
A note, written by a "Dren Harrison" who is, in fact, Dawn under an alias as discovered by outside sources: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/3186/snarkyreply.jpg
Dawn being immature in the face of a few members of deviantART accusing her of tracing: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/271510684/2323496833
Dawn attacking the artist who posted the journal: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/274827387/2332014820

EXPLAIN:  one of my friends one day posted me a link to their argument against her http://comments.deviantart.com/1/271510684/2323496833 Pointing out that this Dawn Donald, DragoArt @ dA, traces. Later that day she noted NeonDragon about their similar names, which led to the journal posted above. Dawn threatened NeonDragon with a lawsuit, under the reasoning that she was "slandering her name and character", when in fact that Dawn had copied Neon's tutorial style in the first place.
Earlier today, i was visiting the site of PortConMaine to check  the dates for a family member when i saw that she was going to be a guest there. I immediately emailed the staff and i am awaiting their reply. She also does commissions, and i suggest deffo NOT commissioning her, although not all her recent work has been traced, just the majority. She is immature and annoying to communicate with.


[identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
WHO: Rafflone, Soomiko on Second Life (Found on her FA)

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rafflone

WHAT: Multiple tracings and/or heavy reffing from both Second Life avatars and Poser with no credit given or admission.

PROOF: Litany of screenshots to follow. I apologize for the number, but with tracing posts, I want to make sure I am well documented.

Read more... )

EXPLAIN: As a customer of many avatar builders on Second Life, I was acutely aware that something was "off" with Rafflone's art. Once I saw an overlay, however, I was stunned. This was several months ago and I wanted to see if any of her customers or friends would come forward, or if her style would change at all. Unfortunately, I'm still seeing more of the same. I mean no ill will towards the artist, but this crutch will do nothing but hinder them in the long run and is taking a lot of creative license from the avatar creators.

EDIT 1 - rehosted two images
[identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
WHO: Rafflone, Soomiko on Second Life (Found on her FA)

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rafflone

WHAT: Multiple tracings and/or heavy reffing from both Second Life avatars and Poser with no credit given or admission.

PROOF: Litany of screenshots to follow. I apologize for the number, but with tracing posts, I want to make sure I am well documented.

Read more... )

EXPLAIN: As a customer of many avatar builders on Second Life, I was acutely aware that something was "off" with Rafflone's art. Once I saw an overlay, however, I was stunned. This was several months ago and I wanted to see if any of her customers or friends would come forward, or if her style would change at all. Unfortunately, I'm still seeing more of the same. I mean no ill will towards the artist, but this crutch will do nothing but hinder them in the long run and is taking a lot of creative license from the avatar creators.

EDIT 1 - rehosted two images
[identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
WHO: Rafflone, Soomiko on Second Life (Found on her FA)

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/rafflone

WHAT: Multiple tracings and/or heavy reffing from both Second Life avatars and Poser with no credit given or admission.

PROOF: Litany of screenshots to follow. I apologize for the number, but with tracing posts, I want to make sure I am well documented.

Read more... )

EXPLAIN: As a customer of many avatar builders on Second Life, I was acutely aware that something was "off" with Rafflone's art. Once I saw an overlay, however, I was stunned. This was several months ago and I wanted to see if any of her customers or friends would come forward, or if her style would change at all. Unfortunately, I'm still seeing more of the same. I mean no ill will towards the artist, but this crutch will do nothing but hinder them in the long run and is taking a lot of creative license from the avatar creators.

EDIT 1 - rehosted two images
[identity profile] 0acorn0.livejournal.com

WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).


WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


Instances of tracing )
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
Instances of tracing )



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.




Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

[identity profile] 0acorn0.livejournal.com

WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).


WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


Instances of tracing )
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
Instances of tracing )



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.




Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

[identity profile] 0acorn0.livejournal.com

WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).


WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


Instances of tracing )
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
Instances of tracing )



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.




Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

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