http://0acorn0.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] 0acorn0.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] artists_beware2011-11-24 04:16 pm
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WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).


WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


As an example, this is art from five-six months ago that she drew while living with me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/jzodv.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jt5hj5.png
She's never traced while living with me because I had gotten onto her in the past for copying other artists.


These are the traces I've found evidence of:
First example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820740/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820732/    [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6595400/ [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i44.tinypic.com/s1kksm.jpg    [NSFW]



Second example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6894553/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6577848/    [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/25r1sh1.png   [NSFW]



Third example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898927
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6703170/
Overlay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/otfbcw.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/34r617b.jpg




Fourth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898413
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6057168/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/fljxvr.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/14m5abk.jpg



Fifth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898388
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6789179/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ppzyx4.jpg



Sixth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6807846/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5060030/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/yyp01.jpg

Edit:
Got shown these ones last night:
Seventh example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898399   [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://i42.tinypic.com/aekvg5.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ohis69.jpg   [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/2a7v9c4.png    [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/wsw93q.png    [NSFW]

Eighth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6811551/
Traced from:
http://i40.tinypic.com/zupcli.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i44.tinypic.com/350nrxh.jpg     [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/1042nn6.jpg    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/kdx5b8.jpg   [NSFW]




Almost all the traces have been of artists whom she's watching, the only exception being my own art.


Suspected traces:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6852690/       [NSFW]
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898425/    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/xdruq0.jpg (from 2010)       [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/14kifzn.jpg (from 2010)     [NSFW]

There were a few others that were TCBY commissions that I am certain were traced, but I never saved the files.



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.




Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

[identity profile] jakejynx.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think you're over-reaching. I'm just not seeing a lot of this. I mean, it's easy to see a pose and find a similar pose done by another artist, overlay them, and find these tiny areas where they just happen to match up. Okay, so a one-inch, nearly straight line matches up. So what? 90%+ of the drawing doesn't. Even in instances where referencing is done, you're bound to have certain lines that match exactly. And you don't even know that those particular images are the ones that were referenced or traced. They're so generic, and so far from exact matches, you could pick other similar images out of a hat and probably find the same sort of matches.

Also, your attitude towards others in some of your responses isn't exactly lending credence to your claims. It's making it seem even more grudge-y, that you're getting so bent out of shape towards those who offer dissent.

[identity profile] stormslegacy.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's up to people to decide where "the line" is, because you cannot deny that sometimes things can sometimes just coincidentally match up. Sometimes it's an inch, sometimes it's a centimeter, but it's something common with similar poses.

If what you are saying is true, then why do you not have *ANY* examples of the more difficult to draw areas?

When drawing figures, in order to nail a pose you need to use certain angles and proportions. Bodies are very rarely as stylized as the rest of the features. This alone will give you similar results to what you ended up with. Feet, paws,and muzzles on the other hand tend to differ from artist to artist, if someone traces, that's where you nail them. Find this evidence and most of us will come to believe you.
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[personal profile] ocelotish 2011-11-26 05:42 am (UTC)(link)
Also, your attitude towards others in some of your responses isn't exactly lending credence to your claims. It's making it seem even more grudge-y, that you're getting so bent out of shape towards those who offer dissent.

You should see her fa journal.

[identity profile] starinthegutter.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
I saw what was recently posted on Acorn's FA journal and one thing I want to say is, it's different getting opinions from your friends than it is getting opinions from people you don't know on a personal level. In some ways it's better getting opinions from complete strangers because you get a completely unbiased point of view, and perhaps something that never crossed your mind. Getting opinions from your friends more often results in them agreeing with you because they don't want to make you mad or frustrated.

[identity profile] breakspire.livejournal.com 2011-11-26 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
that's what I was thinking as well.