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[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).

WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


As an example, this is art from five-six months ago that she drew while living with me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/jzodv.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jt5hj5.png
She's never traced while living with me because I had gotten onto her in the past for copying other artists.


These are the traces I've found evidence of:
First example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820740/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820732/    [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6595400/ [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i44.tinypic.com/s1kksm.jpg    [NSFW]



Second example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6894553/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6577848/    [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/25r1sh1.png   [NSFW]



Third example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898927
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6703170/
Overlay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/otfbcw.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/34r617b.jpg




Fourth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898413
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6057168/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/fljxvr.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/14m5abk.jpg



Fifth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898388
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6789179/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ppzyx4.jpg



Sixth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6807846/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5060030/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/yyp01.jpg

Edit:
Got shown these ones last night:
Seventh example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898399   [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://i42.tinypic.com/aekvg5.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ohis69.jpg   [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/2a7v9c4.png    [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/wsw93q.png    [NSFW]

Eighth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6811551/
Traced from:
http://i40.tinypic.com/zupcli.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i44.tinypic.com/350nrxh.jpg     [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/1042nn6.jpg    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/kdx5b8.jpg   [NSFW]




Almost all the traces have been of artists whom she's watching, the only exception being my own art.


Suspected traces:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6852690/       [NSFW]
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898425/    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/xdruq0.jpg (from 2010)       [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/14kifzn.jpg (from 2010)     [NSFW]

There were a few others that were TCBY commissions that I am certain were traced, but I never saved the files.



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.

Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

Comments

[ananamoos.livejournal.com]

Hi I'm going to keep my opinions about this private, since I don't want anyone riding my ass about this.

I will say though.

That everyone here seems silly. Everyone attacking Acorn seems silly, Acorn seems silly, everything here is silly.

It's the internet people, things happen. Don't get your panties in a bunch about it.

[stormslegacy.livejournal.com]

Maybe you don't understand how the internet works--some artists make much of their money online. Entire businesses are online only. Hell, posts like this are legally libel that smears someone's business name. In the end, it's not "just the internet." This is a very serious accusation.

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

I am unsure how many times you expect me to apologize, especially given that I took back my allegations last night before anyone else tried making overlays in the first place.

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

This isn't StormsLegacy expecting an apology, they are responding to the person above saying that A_B as a whole "seems silly" and "get your panties in a bunch".

It's pretty trivializing.

[stormslegacy.livejournal.com]

Thank you, I must have just hit thew post button before you responded. That's exactly what I meant, despite my response to the OP.

Also...could you check the IP address of the anon commenter? I have a feeling we know who it may be.

[shukivengeance.livejournal.com]

ananamoos' IP address does not match anyone else who has commented in this post.

[stormslegacy.livejournal.com]

Thank you for checking! I apologize for overstepping.

[stormslegacy.livejournal.com]

Do you think apologizing or "retracting your statements" while continuing to post in your journal about the subject should just erase that you performed a very poor choice of action? Do you think real life works that way? That apologizing removes consequences?

I only speak for myself, not A_B, but what I expect from you is to change your behavior, not do it again and behave professionally. Admit that you were wrong and apologize to the artist you accused. I expect you to stop defending your behavior and just take what comes.

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

I did apologize to the artist in my newest journal, in the very first line.

[stormslegacy.livejournal.com]

Congratulations? I have no idea what you're expecting me to say. Apologizing doesn't change your initial accusation or the deception in the examples you provided. It's not hard to notice that you only apologized after you examples were proven false--despite your "retracting your statements" last night.

Apologizing is just the first step.

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean for there to be any deception, that's the only means I have of scaling things (using the transform tool on Sai).


I really don't know what you expect me to say or do, since you seem to be getting worked up over it regardless of the fact that I retracted my statement last night and apologized today.


There's nothing else I can do/say about it.

[ananamoos.livejournal.com]

I sell art online myself, so I'm fairly informed about how it works, thank you.

Well the artist doesn't seem to be getting any flack from anyone besides Acorn and a few other people, hm? Nah, not really.

So yeah, it's not affecting anyone here personally, so people shouldn't be that fired up about it.

No one will remember by next week anyways.

[fastbreak333.livejournal.com]

You're making it worse by defending your friend. She got herself into this, she can get out of it by herself.

[joanmichele.livejournal.com]

I am sure you would do the same if your friends were in Acorn's shoes.

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

I personally wouldn't as I trust my friends to take care of themselves.

[ocelotish]

I'll ditto this. I might take them aside say "You're coming across as _______," or even post something along the lines of "Made them sign off for the night to cool down," but no way in heck I'd defend them in here when they've started this whole thing themselves.

[spiffystuff.livejournal.com]

I don't see why friends shouldn't chime in, it's when they take things personally or go on a warpath it gets problematic.

[ocelotish]

Fair enough and I don't think there should be a rule about, but avoiding chiming in keeps me off the personal/warpath, where it often goes. It just helps me avoid the possibility of white knighting.

[fastbreak333.livejournal.com]

Pretty much this. It's one thing to be moral support, it's another to fight a friend's battles for him or her.

[fastbreak333.livejournal.com]

Maybe I would, but I'd honestly refrain. When friends suddenly pop up to defend a person, it usually makes things worse. There's now two sides that are going to go back and forth: one that asserts she's not right and one that's just defending a friend. All it would cause is more fighting.

Again, your friend has to handle this by herself. She's an adult and she can take care of herself. If you want to sympathize and comfort her, that's fine, but don't fight her battles or you'll get sucked into something manic.

[neolucky.livejournal.com]

Honestly? No. I wouldn't. If my friends hade made the same mistake, I'd tell them exactly how I'd feel and NOT defend them blindly. =| I also wouldnt whine in a junkload of FA journals and play the victim if it were me.

(frozen comment)

[ananamoos.livejournal.com]

Does no one see the 'people attacking Acorn is silly, Acorn is silly, everyone is silly"?

I don't know Acorn at all.

(frozen comment)

[kerstin-orion.livejournal.com]

You are just insulting everyone who commented here seriously by belittling their discussion. I am freezing this thread, and this is a warning to refrain from making insulting generalizations.