[identity profile] reiofhope.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Okay, I’ve been very hesitant about brining this situation up in public, but I’m quite frustrated at this point, so here it goes.

I commissioned a partial fursuit from [livejournal.com profile] chapeljax back on July 31, 2004, right after Anthrocon. I paid the full amount immediately of 470 USD via paypal and sent my character reference at that time as well. It has been 2 years and I have seen nothing but a single arm paw (photograph) since then. I have emailed repeatedly, attempting to establish completion dates at –least- 2 months in advance. All attempts have failed. I have been informed that my suit is 65% complete. I have asked to see photos, which I think is quite reasonable considering the circumstances, yet I have not been granted any (save for the arm stated above). If even a foamed head or –something- that would put me at ease a little. I have emailed Jax twice in the past week + a few days and have received no response. I posted in his LJ, where he informed me that the first email did not go through. I emailed the second time and have not received any reply. Does he not answer his gmail account? Do I have the wrong email or what? I know fursuit construction is –not- easy work, but neither is continuing to be ever so patient after shelling out 470 USD for a service over 2 years ago and having almost nothing to show for it.

Wow. Any one else having issues?

I apologize and I’m not trying to get the wambulance involved, but I think I have a right to say –something-.
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Date: 2006-08-09 10:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] banrai.livejournal.com
Man, I have seen SO many posts about Jax and how she has done so many people bad, not only with suits but with art as well. :/ It's sad because her work rocks.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
I recall hearing that Jax had some kind of personal disaster a while back that screwed up a lot of his completion dates. But unfortunately everything I've heard suggests that he hasn't been handling it in a terribly professional manner. Which sucks, because he work is very, very good and he seems like a nice guy. I really don't know what you can do at this point...

Date: 2006-08-09 10:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonstone-wind.livejournal.com
Man I feel for you sadly I was lucky to get partial refund from Jax as it was when I should have either gotten full or the said fur I purchased for the commission sent to me cause I DID pay for it... yeh jax sadly is a great artist and suit maker but totaly unprofessional wich is really discoraging I know at least 3 ppl waiting on suits and or items for 3+ years now myself.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keihound.livejournal.com
I hate to say it, but I'm in the same boat as you. Exactly 2 years, a decent sum of money paid, and all I've recieved is an image of the fur that'll be used to make Kei. I respect that fursuits are extremely hard to build, but you have to dedicate yourself to a level of professionalism if you're going to take them on as commissions.
I hate to even open my mouth about this, but it is getting ridiculous now - and to hear it's happening to others is saddening.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slycat.livejournal.com
The biggest problem with Jax is as you say the unprofessional way he's managed it. Just an email saying how things are. Realistic ETA, etc. Things to put his customer's minds at rest... It's been very stressful comissioning Jax as the suit I was after missed FC and it's looking likely to miss EF too.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-goat.livejournal.com
I know so many people who are in the same position with Jax. It's getting absurd. Yes, apologies have been made and supposed public updates on the status of the commissions - why have these not changed in 6 months, is it? If she's not doing any work then she NEEDS to refund people - including materials for that matter, since it's entirely her own fault.

Even personal issues do not excuse the way she is acting with her customers. It is my firm opinion that someone needs to pursue legal action because nothing else is going to get through that this is VERY serious.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowfox19.livejournal.com
Stupid sugestion I know but if the said person is not responding to emails and its been two years then why not file a dispute through paypal. They will investigate it and freeze her account until the matter is settled.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
I suspect that Jax had dug himself into a hole. If he's spent the money that he got two years ago, and doesn't currently have any money, he can't refund people. (I don't know for sure, but that seems likely.) It's the one worry I have, should somebody decide to demand a refund from me. Sometimes by the time the suit is finished, the money is gone! Bills need paying. But I've never not finished something, I just worry and fret anyhow. What if they don't like it, what'll I do?! (Happily it hasn't happened yet.)

Date: 2006-08-09 10:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com
Never comission someone with a name that starts with "Ja"?

Date: 2006-08-09 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slycat.livejournal.com
Well, same here as I live in England, it's a long way to go for conventions.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-goat.livejournal.com
But sadly, that's just part of trading. The money may be gone but it has to be found again and refunded.

Or else - spend every spare hour working to complete the suits. The update was in April for the completion statistics of the commission list, and it's not changed once since then, nor has what's been told to the commissioners. Ergo, no work has been done, we must assume. And regardless of situation, there is no excuse for not lifting a finger to so much as make a tail when you've taken people's money from them.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-goat.livejournal.com
You can only do that within a few months, unfortunately.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snowfox19.livejournal.com
you should be able to dispute it i did after 6 months, you could try contacting paypal you'd only be out enough time for the email or phone call.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] growing-rose.livejournal.com
I'm curious as to who else started with Ja that you might be referring to? I can't think of anyone offhand.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Indeed! Even if he has some other obligation taking up his time, it's possible to find an hour or two every day...

Date: 2006-08-09 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moonstone-wind.livejournal.com
Bingo me to. -20.00 for "service fees/fur ordering" ahem yeh then give me the fur cause its not "your money" till your finished with the order.

Date: 2006-08-09 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolf-goat.livejournal.com
Mmm, cos basically I know everyone on his list would much rather have their suits than money back! :)

Date: 2006-08-09 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] growly.livejournal.com
Okay, this is very off-topic... but WHAT is your icon a picture of?? I've seen at least one other person with the icon and I still can't tell what it is. o_o

Date: 2006-08-09 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slycat.livejournal.com
I'm quite a Katamari fan and I still couldn't work that out... :P

Date: 2006-08-09 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] razerz.livejournal.com
Damn, kerper and i are playing that game right now and i didnt even recognize it! Hi rei i ♥ yoooouuuu
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