Anyone's artwork?
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Hi all, first post here!
I've had a helpful bystander email me this link to a site that contains four images of mine (signatures obliterated by cropping) and I was wondering if anyone might be recognising their own work being used here too as there is various dragon and other artwork being used.
I don't recall being asked permission for using my pictures but I've a terrible memory so that's not to say I was not asked. However there is no credit given to anyone specifically for any of the images.
http://www.charactercatacombs.com/DracoClan/
I've emailed the webmaster to ask nicely for credit on my own pictures, but I could not speak for anyone else so if you recognise your work you might want to email them about it.
- Drak
I've had a helpful bystander email me this link to a site that contains four images of mine (signatures obliterated by cropping) and I was wondering if anyone might be recognising their own work being used here too as there is various dragon and other artwork being used.
I don't recall being asked permission for using my pictures but I've a terrible memory so that's not to say I was not asked. However there is no credit given to anyone specifically for any of the images.
http://www.charactercatacombs.com/DracoClan/
I've emailed the webmaster to ask nicely for credit on my own pictures, but I could not speak for anyone else so if you recognise your work you might want to email them about it.
- Drak
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Date: 2004-04-12 04:49 am (UTC)This is from his page.
http://members.vclart.net/Frisket17/1DragonPage.jpg
IE: him ranting and screaming how don't be a code thief.. yet he'll take other's hard ass worked pictures? Fuck that C_c;
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Date: 2004-04-12 04:59 am (UTC)Wow. That's all I have to say. I'm going to give you a smidge of advise since you are obviously very protective of YOUR copyrighted material as demonstrated by the screenshot:
http://members.vclart.net/Frisket17/1DragonPage.jpg
Now let me make it understood that pictures are copyrighted too... The person(s) you've taken from are not entirely happy and already this link has been mentioned on a few sites telling us of this art theft. (As that is what it is.) I'm sure you understand how long it takes to create something, be it stories or songs or art. It isn't pulled from the air and it takes time and creativity to make.
I'm sure if someone took your ideas and claimed them as their own without emailing you for permission or giving you credit, you'd be outraged I'm sure. This is the case in hand. You are using material not belonging to you. One of the artists is identified as Drakhenliche. Her artwork is found at:
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/i/s/isabelle/isabelle.html
http://drakhenliche.deviantart.com/
http://us.vclart.net/vcl/Artists/Drakhenliche/index01-by-date.html
Just to name a few. In your pages you have completely shunned her right to her own work by not only taking it, cropping it, but didn't even put credit or ask her permission. That isn't right, is it?
I'm asking you on a personal note if you really value protecting matieral (such as your own) you'll remove the artwork that isn't clipart.. The stuff drawn by artists at Elfwood, Deviant Art, and VCL (and other private archieves) were not meant for others to simply take; much like your stories.
Eitherway, that's my little thought of the day. Feel free to respond when you've a free moment.
Thank you for your time,
Melissa O'Brien of VCL and DA.
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Date: 2004-04-12 07:31 am (UTC)I did not 'steal' a thing every picture on that site save for the few drawn
for me came from several of the free sites online you get when you search
for 'free fantasy art' take it up with them, you are not an artist. If the
artist contacts me with proof that it is their artwork, and asks me to
remove it I will.
Since none of them apparently have the backbone to ask for their rights,
'mentioning it on various sites' but not bringing it to the attention of the
easily noticeable posted contact then that is not my problem.
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Date: 2004-04-12 07:39 am (UTC)That's
My reply to that:
Date: 2004-04-12 07:42 am (UTC)If any piece of the material you blithely post as a part of your publication is not royalty free, it is also your ass on the chopping block of litigation should someone decide to sue you.
In short, it's in your best interest to stop acting like a prick and find out what materials you used may not be copyright safe.
That is all.
Re: My reply to that:
Date: 2004-04-12 07:44 am (UTC)Really. You can't expect much from a person that can't use caps nor punctuation O_o;;
-hearts-
Melsa.
Bah...
Date: 2004-04-12 08:01 am (UTC)In either case, I'm a Graphic Designer, I know very well what a publication's responsibilities are in terms of securing the rights to work used within it. 'I didn't know,' is not much of an excuse. He's bound to responsibility for finding more reliable sources for 'clipart' in any case, and if he continues to asct like a prick about it, and I were the original artist, I would sue the asshole.
Re: Bah...
Date: 2004-04-12 08:04 am (UTC)Frankly if I were the artists, I'd take his ass and hang him by his rectum.. But I'm just a bitter bitch who can't stand people who not only don't respect rights of artists (and then demand respect for 'their work'.. HYPOCRIT :P ) --- or even when requested snap back trying to make excuses.
He should be sued if he doesn't remove the images... (is cold, wet n' pissy. Ignore my mindless rants ^_^ )
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Date: 2004-04-12 09:32 am (UTC)I hadn't right-clicked and so did not get confronted by *that* particular little gem :-\
However, the guy replied to my email saying if I could provide links proving the work was mine then he'd credit me for it (a bit rich but hey, result!). He sounded fairly reasonable in his email so hopefully he'll stick to his word and act on my reply. Damn, I'm too trusting.
It's up to you...
Date: 2004-04-12 10:02 am (UTC)If you want the credit, however, I would find out just what 'credit' from this guy entails... will he post a link to your work? Perhaps an e-mail so that other like-minded right-click junkies think twice about stealing the stolen work to post on their oh-so-cool website and maybe ask you first?
Just remember, he's the one who's obliged to cater to you in this particular situation, not the other way around.
Re: It's up to you...
Date: 2004-04-12 10:41 am (UTC)As it was I emailed him the links to the images in question on Elfwood (presumably the 'free fantasy art' site where all the pictures were apparently 'drawn for' him according to his reply to Frisket) and told him in nice, clear, non-ambiguous English to credit me by putting my name and a link to my website beside each picture on the pages on his site where he's using my artwork or remove the pictures all together. Hopefully that message'll penetrate but then with that lame reply he made to Frisket's mail it gives me cause to wonder.
This is what he said to me, anyway:
I can provide credit if you can point out to me which is which, the
site
itself is rather 'dead' at the moment as we have begun switching to
another
site that is top domain (aka .com) and switched the design, but if you
can
provide links and reference to the pages that have your art I will add
a
link back and credit for them.
Re: Bah...
Date: 2004-04-12 10:47 am (UTC)Thanks for emailing him that letter, btw. Hopefully (despite his reply) it'll give him at least something of a kick up the arse re. his very 'individual' idea on copyrights provided his head isn't too much in the way.
Re: Bah...
Date: 2004-04-12 11:03 am (UTC)Frankly I'd tell him to shove his ..eh. Bits in a light socket but that's namely because he came off as horribly rude. You're calmer than I. I just thing the biggest hoot was how he said I WASN'T an artist and should shut up. (to paraphrase.) ..
Huh. If I'm not an artist, guess I pulled my own 'pretty pictures' from my arse C_c;;
But anyway. ^_^ G'luck on dealing with him. Just remember you are not obligated to him..He's in the wrong.
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Date: 2004-04-12 03:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2004-04-12 03:24 pm (UTC)I should be so lucky.
Date: 2004-04-12 09:53 pm (UTC)But I do recognize some stolen cover art from a couple Elric books on the site. His pilfering knows no limits.
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Date: 2004-04-13 08:18 am (UTC)Re: I should be so lucky.
Date: 2004-04-13 08:37 am (UTC)And even if 'they didn't know' where it came from they would either find out whose it is (requires effort) or have the decency to not post it on their site (requires a conscience).
Theft is not the only crimes this chap's commited if you ask me, let's add sloth to the list as well.
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