[identity profile] thrashbear.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
What is the best way to tell a potential client that you are not interested in working on their project?

Some background: A few months ago I was contacted to make a piece of furniture for a guy in Portland. The piece would go for around $750, give or take, and he had a few special requests that would stretch my capabilities as a craftsbear. He told me several times that he was of "limited financial means" and could only afford to pay me $100 a month, which at the time I accepted because I just wanted to work. He would call me every week about it and repeat what we'd established in the previous call, rising to the official level of "pest".

Since then I am no longer interested in the $100 a month thing (I'd have to invest $300 in materials just to get it done), but he doesn't seem to understand when I tell him I need AT LEAST $250 before wood touches blade. I've been ignoring his e-mails as of late, but feel that's pretty rude and think I owe him some sort of response.

The bottom line now is I simply do not wish to deal with this person anymore and wish they would go away. I know that makes me come across as a jerk, but I can't help it, he's just annoying. How can I politely tell this dude to bugger off and still maintain my reputation as a semi-decent person?

Date: 2007-09-05 02:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
I have so been there before. Sadly so far every time a customer has reached "pest" status with me, it's been after a downpayment has been made and some work has been done, and it's too late to back out. If he hasn't paid you anything yet, you're free and clear. Just send him one last e-mail, with a firmly polite "I'm sorry, but I really can't work on this project." You don't have to give reasons, just say that you can't do it. If you can suggest somebody else who might be willing to take the project, pass him a name/website/link whatever. And then just wash your hands of it and add him to your spam filter.

That's my suggestion.

Date: 2007-09-05 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stolenmilkcrate.livejournal.com
I think most people who take commissioned work run into non-ideal customers once in a while, just as you would in a non-commissioned job. In both cases, I would say it's best to do what you can to keep good lines open to the customer.

Since you were the one who made the error in judgment in accepting his $100/month proposal, I would be extremely courteous in letting them know you no longer want to do the commission. Something like, "Hey, I'm really sorry, but I've been trying to put this design together on paper and I'm just not capable of doing it right now. Maybe sometime in the distant future, but I'm not at this stage right now." ? If they persist, tell them point-blank, "I'm sorry, but no. Please do not keep asking. My skills aren't at the level I'd need to complete your piece."

If that doesn't appeal to you, just try not to make it sound like their fault - because, as callous as this sounds, you never know when you'll be hurting for money, and you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot with a potential customer. And when you're hurting for money, you'll probably find annoyances that bothered you before are easier to overlook. :P

Date: 2007-09-05 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyreenya.livejournal.com
I agree with bladespark! you have no obligations if they didn't make a payment. You could even tell them that sorry, the commission slot has been filled.

Date: 2007-09-05 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cissa.livejournal.com
My take is a bit different.

Assuming you want to do the commission- and if not, the above advice is excellent- state that a 50% down payment- nonrefundable- is required before you start. If that takes many months, OK; at least you haven't invested. Note that i would only say this if the commission is something that, if the guy flakes out, you could sell to someone else, potentially. If he's the only one that would possibly want it, you might want a larger than 50% nonrefundable payment before beginning.

Even after getting the down payment, I'd personally probably wait till closer to the full amount was paid before doing the work... but that's your call.

I NEVER do a commission for less than 50% nonrefundable down payment- and sometimes more, if the materials require that.

Good luck!

Date: 2007-09-05 05:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cissa.livejournal.com
Also- if he's a pest, make sure you add dealing with that to the time it takes to do the commission. Meaning, charge him for that.

Date: 2007-09-14 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] solid-squid.livejournal.com
cissa makes a good point. If in future someone tries to do something like this, suggest that they save the money themselves till they can afford the down payment. That way you don't have to deal with this kind of nonsense and can do another commission while they're saving up

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