[identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Hey everyone, what you're seeing here is a compiling of all our most commonly asked questions to the moderators of [livejournal.com profile] artists_beware! This list will always and forever be in constant motion, as people are curious and questions come quite often!

The Artists Beware FAQ



Q: I received a warning from ____, are they even a mod?
A: The moderation team of Artists Beware is as so, in alphabetical order:
[livejournal.com profile] kayla_la = Mod/Maintainer
[livejournal.com profile] kerstin_orion = Head Mod/Community Owner
[livejournal.com profile] neolucky = Mod/Maintainer
[livejournal.com profile] oceandezignz = Mod/Maintainer
[livejournal.com profile] shukivengeance = Mod/Maintainer
[livejournal.com profile] sigilgoat = Mod/Maintainer


Each moderator has a "mod icon", usually something cute with a top hat and a Mod/Moderator notifier in the icon; see my own for one example. So if you see these names or icons, you are talking to an actual A_B staff member!




Q: Why can't I post to Artists_Beware? When I try, LJ tells me I cannot post here!
A: At the top of every LJ community page is a black or grey nav bar that will tell you your membership status in a community, as well as give you shortcut links to doing various things within said community. You MUST be a member of Artists_Beware to be able to put a post into the queue, so if the nav bar is giving you a link to JOIN A_B, click it and follow the steps.
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And as a reminder, you do not need an LJ account to participate in A_B. You can use Twitter, Facebook, OpenID and Google+.




Q: I sent in a post to Artists_Beware, why isn't it showing up after I send it in!?
A: We are a moderated community. All posts are reviewed to ensure that the report format, when used; is used correctly, screencaps are properly censored, that the beware is a valid one rather than a revenge piece, or in the case of an advice post, is not a repeat of something already covered in the past.

Approval can take anywhere from 3-10 days.




Q: How do I know if my post got in or not?
A: If your post was approved, there really isn't much in the way of a notifier unless you have chosen to track new entries posted to the comm, or you use the A_B twitter (@Artists_Beware) for when we add new entries to the comm.

If your post was rejected, you are going to get an email from lj_notify, with the title of "Moderated submission notification". This email will tell you that your post has been rejected, and the reasons why will ALWAYS be included, from a member of the moderation team. If you have very strict filters on your email accounts, please keep a look out for emails in your spam/trash folder from lj_notify as it is not uncommon for these emails to wind up there.




Q: What do you mean by "censor out all real names"?
A: If the person you are bewaring does not use their legal name on the web spaces where they do business, you cannot display it in screencaps or mention it in the body of your post. Even if their legal name is on their Paypal account, or the signature of their emails, it still does not count towards a public online presence of their real name. Please censor these out.




Q: Where can I host screencaps for my beware?
A: The moderators of A_B strongly recommend users join the service: Imageshack.us for their screencapping needs. You can upload images to their site and actually CHOOSE that the files being uploaded, are not resized into smaller unreadable files. You can so something similar with LJ's Scrapbook feature as well.

We also do not recommend using FA/DA/IB/etc. to upload screencaps, as these sites generally do not allow for that.




Q: What is an LJ-cut?
A: An LJ-cut is a piece of LiveJournal-based HTML coding that allows for a very wordy post to be condensed down to make web browsing easier for everyone, and to also be kind to those who do not desire a cluttered Friends List on LJ. This code is very easy to use, just like you would use a bold tag or an italics tag.

We have instructions on how to insert an LJ-cut into your posts in our Report Template, but here is the actual LJ FAQ article on them: LJ-cuts.




Q: Why do you only tag the BAD artists? What about the GOOD ones?
A: LiveJournal has a hard limit on tags, and as we are a community based on warning individuals of shady business people and their practices rather than good ones, we are saving our resources for those. We DO have monthly positive feedback posts though, feel free to browse through these, or use the LJ community [livejournal.com profile] artistrecommend to promote the good eggs of the art community.




Q: Is Artists Beware a 'drama comm'?
A: Many people have varying opinions about this community, and unfortunately this is one of them. There are those who unfortunately think informing the buying and selling public of shady individuals of various levels of popularity is tattling/drama mongering.

The staff tries very hard to keep drama down, if not immediately out of the community by viewing entries before approving them, discouraging our members from going to artist or commissioner pages and making rude commentary, and cultivating a strong aura of professionalism for this site (positive reviews/discussion posts/etc).


Artists Beware is what you make of it, and we hope that you see it as a resource for who to buy from, who to avoid, and advice on how to make yourselves better business people/customers.

Date: 2013-03-11 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelapsedecay.livejournal.com
In which oceandezignz reminds A_B followers of common sense.

But no I'm just kidding, was hoping a post like this could be made. The description lists most of this info but a post is easier to reference

Additionally I find the only people who actually think this is a drama comm are the artists posted here and their supporters.
Edited Date: 2013-03-11 09:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-03-15 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teekchan.livejournal.com
I have no idea how to use LJ so I'm leaving it here. Due to a recent 'drama issue' that's popped up, the issue of copyright has popped up again. I think A_B should make a post on copyright and how it does indeed belong to the artists. A lot of commissioners think they own rights no matter if they were sold to them or not.
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Re: artist beware-

Date: 2013-11-03 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
This is not an acceptable way to make a beware. You are free to submit a beware using our form. I am screening this comment.
Edited Date: 2013-11-03 11:02 pm (UTC)

Re: artist beware-

Date: 2013-11-03 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dumarsi.livejournal.com
ok, link to form, please?

Re: artist beware-

Date: 2013-11-03 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
Over on the sidebar to the left there is a link marked "Artist Beware Report Template"

That's the template.
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From: [identity profile] anon232323.livejournal.com
I made an Artist beware and it was immediately approved by the Admin. While not a scam it self still shady and bad behavior which puts the artist in question's trustworthiness in question.

Okay a while ago I had posted a compliment on an Artist's submission which the Artist threw a tantrum over. Me and an innocent bystander have both been the victims of an ongoing slander campaign this artist has launched against us.

In a nutshell this artist deleted our comments and has been lying about what our comments have originally said. Both of us now get harassing PM's claiming everything from us apparently being racists, to sexists.

These PM's are not coming from people who were able to see our comments but were told what the Artist claims what it was we said.

I thought since the nature of the Artist's behavior put her trustworthiness in question that it was valid. However the same beware that was admin approved got deleted without warning and now the Artist is retaliating for putting the artist beware post up.

Both me and the bystander merely want our names cleared and a former apology for the Artist's slander. If possible I'd like to talk to Artist beware staff to explain the story and see about the possibility of getting that post restored.
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
I'm very confused by this comment. Do you mean you submitted a post to a tumblr that happened to have the same name? We do not have an official 'artist's beware' tumblr, thus we would not be able to help you in that case.
From: [identity profile] anon232323.livejournal.com
Oh the Tumbler is not associated with you? While would a slander campaign launched by an Artist be valid for an Artist beware on your site then?

The artist in question has been a nightmare to both me and the bystander. All over a compliment post and disagreement over what the Genre belonged under.

An minor argument over what Genre an piece belongs to while understandably a lil annoying does not justify a slander campaign.

To be punished for a compliment and abusing the ability to delete posts to add credibility to false stories. That is an prime example of being untrustworthy.

We don't want money or a refund or anything like that. Just our names cleared and apologies for the trouble.

If this case sounds up your alley please allow me to share it as a formal beware.
Edited Date: 2014-09-04 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Correct, the tumblr is not associated with us in any way. I don't even know who runs it. If you have an issue with them, you'll have to contact them, I'm afraid.

I'm having a little difficulty understanding your problem, however, anyone is free to submit a post to AB, and if it is a valid post, it will be approved. If it isn't, it'll be rejected with the reasons why.
From: [identity profile] anon232323.livejournal.com
In a nutshell the problem.

Okay I posted a compliment on a work of art by an Artist. The site the work was uploaded to had recent policy changed about genres. Being part of one of the affected genre I merely stated. "Are you aware there have been policy changes to that Genre?" The Artist lashed out and another comment was made by the bystander. Essentially telling the artist to calm down. The Artist argued with me that the work was not of the Genre in question. And oddly I never accused it of being that Genre.

The Artist was simply upset I even implied it belonged under that Genre and refused to listen to me when I said. "Calm down. I already told you it's great just relax."

She deleted all of the comments on that piece left her replies to our comments up. So instead of being able to see what we really said it looks worse then it was since there's a bunch of blank spaces identifying our usernames and her arguing comments. She claims we were both making sexist remarks and being absolutely racist etc. Tons of slander. Every now and then when I log onto the site I find another artist I had favorited has me on their block list. My PM inbox on the site is full of death threats from people who heard the artist's version of the comments.

I never have actually commissioned the artist in question. I just wanna know if a problem like this even counts even though money never changed hands. I think anyone looking to have a commission done would rather see hear of this story first then find out the hard way after.
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, we cannot accept a post where no money has changed hands. A_B is only for reporting transactions that have gone wrong.
Edited Date: 2014-09-04 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anon232323.livejournal.com
I am sorry to hear that. I thought that as a warning site for shady and unethical behavior of artists and commissioner clients alike that such a problem would matter to. I do have evidence to support the story. Even took a screenshot of the artist in question saying and I quote. "I'll tell everyone what ever the *@$% I want about you!" She of course edited that part out right away.

While I understand such a policy is in place for reasons. I ask that you consider expanding to allow incidents like my story to be shared. I bid you all farewell.

Be careful which artists you compliment.
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
I see. Yes, unfortunately, this isn't artists_beware material, as it's more of a personal dispute between you and the artist. Your best bet might be to contact a moderator/admin on the site this all occurred on. I wish you luck!

I submitted a journal but need to edit it.

Date: 2014-11-09 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyvlet.livejournal.com
The situation changed just as I pressed submit, but I have no idea how to edit this now.

Re: I submitted a journal but need to edit it.

Date: 2014-11-09 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Hello! Feel free to resubmit the post with your edit, and we can remove the duplicate from our queue. If you need a text copy of your post, I can PM it to you.

Date: 2015-05-27 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastelpirate.livejournal.com
I submitted a beware on an artist with screenshots that I had previously submitted to another beware site. After I submitted the beware for moderation, I realized that the artist's email address is visible in one or two of the screenshots. Do I resubmit the post now with the edits or wait until it's (presumably) rejected to resubmit it?

Also, the artist used an alias that wasn't her legal name in several of the screenshots. Do I also need to remove this?

My apologies for the confusion. ;o;

Date: 2015-05-27 06:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Hello, we will be reviewing your entry and rejecting it if necessary for censoring. Please keep an eye on your email registered with Livejournal as the rejection notice will have instructions for a resubmission!
From: [identity profile] qwells.livejournal.com
Hey!

The subject says it all really. I have read your rules and understand that as no money has exchanged between myself and the tracer I cannot post to here, but the alt journal you suggest seemingly hasn't been updated in 10 years! (Crikey!)

Is your policy still the same regarding not allowing posts about a trace artist unless directly affected? And if so do you know who else to contact?

Thanks!
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Art_Theft is active, but unfortunately the main moderators have abandoned the site and haven't been letting new members in. Most of the content is member-locked.

Our policy is the same. We do not allow tracing posts that are by proxy, or where no money has exchanged hands.
From: [identity profile] justin coolidge (from livejournal.com)
your Twitter account DOES NOT show my entry, I am UNABLE to see it here, and I DID NOT get a rejection email and it has been a good all day (9 hours), rejection letter happens after at most 3 hours!! Dafuq?! Did you even get it?? Did my low signal kill it (make it not go through)??
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
I see a post by you still in the queue, which means we haven't gotten to yours yet.
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
In addition to what Dani said, we are a volunteer team. It can take a few days to a couple of weeks in some extreme cases for us to line up.

When do you actually make an entry?

Date: 2016-03-08 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leogarg.livejournal.com
I think that is the right place to ask.
I have the problem that I've waited now for commissions of two artists since 5 months. Artist 1 made a journal about a month ago how they're sorting stuff out and it should be coming. Artist 2 replied to an inquiry saying they'd get it done "mid march" (note that this was not the first time I've asked), so that is when I set my deadline for both of them. Nothing by then and I'll ask for my money back.
With neither was a "date of delivery" set, but with one of them, I made a similar one right before which was done in half a week.

Now, my question is.. Assuming that went well and I'd actually get my money back (or they actually do it by midmarch), should I be happy and shut up or should I still make an entry?
I mean, you don't make the entries to rebel against artists but to warn other commissioners and if I knew back then that it would take half a year, I would not have gotten them to be sure, so I don't really know what to do now in regards to AB.

(Neither of those artists has an entry yet so it's not like I can just put it in the comments. I actually checked AB back then because I was burned before)

Re: When do you actually make an entry?

Date: 2016-03-08 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Whether or not something is "bewareable" will have to be looked at by the moderation team. If you feel it's worth posting, feel free to send it to the queue. A separate entry per artist, if you feel inclined to do both. At worst we would tell you we didn't feel it was bad enough to be bewareable.

If you have set a definite deadline, let's see if they'll meet it.

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