[identity profile] radiocatastrophe posting in [community profile] artists_beware
WHO: PirateCashoo (FA)/(DA)







WHERE: Furaffinity/Gmail







WHAT: I ordered a HQ Colored Fullbody of x2 Characters







WHEN: I sent the initial email with details on August 31th 2012

PROOF: Commission Journal - Notes - Emails - Paypal Payment

EXPLAIN: I discovered Cashoo through A_B and decided to give her a go since her past cases were resolved and thought she'd changed, I saw she was looking for some help to raise money for her first months rent and decided to jump on the deal. After discussing details with my boyfriend I went ahead and sent her the email as well as the payment of $185 plus another $20 for the detail background after finally hearing from her on the 9th of September, then on the 13th of October she requested yet another $20 for props (his guitar) I told her if things went well with my other commissions I'd pay it off to her.

After my last email which was sent on the 14th of October I sent another on the 19th of November asking how she was doing and how the commission was coming along (I also sent an email during some down time on FA on 09/10/12) with no response until I sent another email on November 23rd after reading her latest beware here, I let her know how I felt about the emails she was sending and didn't want my commission experience to end up like this and suggested that she try to show her customers that she is working on their commissions through private or public live streams, talk to me about a deadline she could meet (which we never did), or even update me again on any progress on my commission. From her response it felt like she didn't even read or understand my email to her and began to ramble about things that weren't even relevant to the email. She told me she'd give a more thought out and thorough reply, which I never got and I continued to pester her on the same day she sent me the email responding to mine and then on every month since this year started - Jan 7th, Feb 5th, and March 3rd with nothing back from her.

EDIT #1: Corrected a typo and adding a screenshot of my latest email to her after posting on her Deviant Art page stating that I had posted her here and would be emailing her soon.
From Me: Email - 03/22/13


EDIT #2: I'd like to add that I am considering a chargeback or following the flock of those wanting to contact Paypal together to get them to look into what she's doing (or rather not doing) and getting her to either complete our commissions(?) or give us all refunds to the work she has not completed. An Email regarding my previous post to this edit.

Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-22 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecreativepen.livejournal.com
Fact. I'm open to the idea of payment plans IF it is a large project, but other than that, nope. It's okay to ask (since every commission is different), but insisting on it after the fact is rude. Besides, if you aren't comfortable with sending hundreds of dollars up front to an artist you may have doubts on, it might be a good idea to just not commission then.

Also, you're totally right. No one should have to essentially bribe an artist to get them to finish work. A tip is a thank you for a job well done, not bait to get them to bite and finish the work.

Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-22 08:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecreativepen.livejournal.com
Well, at least this was a lesson learned, albiet in a tough way. Not blaming you at all for how you handled this, since she appeared to have a grip on things at the time you commissioned her.

At least you're able to do more to protect your money after this! I really hope she's able to buck up and finish your commission (honestly looks like just a few hours more is needed), or by some miracle you're able to get refunded.

Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-22 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thecreativepen.livejournal.com
After reading all her bewares, I really have little faith in her money woes. With what she charges, her monthly rent (she posted about it in a journal), and the amount of interest into her work, I really think she's spending the money in ways she shouldn't be spending it, because she's clearly bringing in a lot.

It really just seems like a bunch of lies and excuses to make a quick buck. She's never provided proof of any of her claims.

Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-23 03:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Legally speaking, you wouldn't be able to pay someone to finish it off anyway, which is a real shame. It looks like it will be lovely once she manages to finish it.
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(frozen) Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-25 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com
Screening this comment as we do not allow users to plug themselves in our community nor do we encourage copyright infringement.

(frozen) Re: Why?

Date: 2013-03-26 03:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
Again, as Taasla and Shuki have both said, you really can't have another artist go in and finish or rework the commission, as the art is STILL Cashoo's copyright.

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