Mod Post.

Apr. 19th, 2013 01:20 pm
[identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
This is a reminder that if someone is posted here, that is not your cue to harass them nor should you be contacting them in any way unless you yourself have pending business with them. Doing so will lead to at minimum a warning, maximum a ban.
Our community exists to give advice, seek resolution with regards to bad transactions and warn other potential consumers when resolution is not possible.
We are not here to give you a target to mob, so if you are not one of their current customers it would be much appreciated if our members could refrain from contacting people featured here. This also includes offering to 'get in touch with the person' on OP's behalf. Keep any mention of this out of the community.

Regarding Bazeel, A_B's contact on the FA mod team, I'd like to clarify that users are not to take A_B issues to him unless instructed by a moderator or Bazeel himself. FurAffinity staff only respond to problems sent in via Trouble Ticket, with the exception of Bazeel, who moderators may contact. Sending a note or a message to Bazeel without the okay of a moderator will do nothing, as he doesn't respond to private messages about either site.

Comments offering to "finish up" another person's owed art will be screened. While the gesture is made with good intentions, it is a violation of the original artist's copyright to their work. If a customer wishes to go this route, they should get written permission from the artist first, and after receiving that permission, look outside the community for an artist to finish the piece.
Related is offering to pay off the debt left from a scammer, or offer free art. Again, while done with good intentions, it is not the point of the community. Community members are free to politely contact the OP in private and offer their services, but not on the Artists_Beware post itself.

Linking to your own gallery/business is considered "self promotion", and inappropriate for the mission of Artists_Beware. There are plenty of communities, forums and other venues to advertise yourself on. Any self promoting comments will be screened. The only exceptions to this are pricing posts and in an advice post that asks for a business/person who does a specific thing, like specialty printing.

Asking for names or speculating on identities in advice posts is inappropriate and such comments will be frozen or screened. It is fine to encourage the person to post a beware, but names are to be kept out of advice posts as they do not require the same evidence that bewares do.

Private information like real names or email addresses in a beware is also off-limits unless the person does business under this identity or the email can be found publicly. It is not acceptable to have these in a beware otherwise, or to request them in comments.

Things that do not belong on Artists_Beware:
- Tracing posts, unless the person is doing traced commissions for money. General tracing posts should be made to the Art-Theft community.
- Similar to the above, art theft that is not for profit does not belong on A_B and should be reported to Art-Theft.
- Character theft except for impersonation, as in cases where someone plays/impersonates an artist's character in order to scam people or when there are other transaction-related issues.
- Individuals who lie in order to receive gift art.
- Personal drama or disputes with no business-related aspect.
- Artists who politely decline taking your commission.

Date: 2013-04-19 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaily.livejournal.com
I dunno, artists are just people too. It seems unreasonable to punish them business-wise because they do things people do; be rude at times for any number of reasons, regardless of whether people consider the reason valid or not.

"So and so who hasn't taken my money and hasn't broken any promises and hasn't negatively affected me in any way except for hurting my feelings, was rude so don't do business with them."-posts seem more appropriate for drama comms.

Date: 2013-04-20 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neolucky.livejournal.com
Part of the entire umbrella of being "professional" is how someone communicates. If an artist is unnecessarily rude regarding a transaction, it's just as valid to post about then as when a customer is rude. Theres no reason for rudeness on either side of it and both can be subject to negative reviews.

This is of course case by case basis, as Shuki said, this hasn't come up often if at all. We mods do a lot of extensive research and discussion to make sure the posts aren't drama-related, and have legitimate concerns.

Date: 2013-04-20 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelapsedecay.livejournal.com
thisthisthis
I'm one of those who believe artists should be held responsible for their rude behavior. (Note: Speaking from the standpoint of a professional artist). Won't fly at a real job, shouldn't fly for this job.

Date: 2013-04-21 07:47 am (UTC)
ocelotish: A white cat in red grass facing away fro the viewer. (Whitecat)
From: [personal profile] ocelotish
I definitely concur. Artists can certainly be blunt about saying no where it may come across as a little rude, but I have no doubt there are people out there who go on a whole tirade about how someone could even DARE ask them for something. Those people definitely deserve a beware.

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