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As an artist, it is critical to have a good Terms of Service. One that includes both your rights as the artist and the customer's rights in relation to your transaction. Not only does this educate your customers on how the process works and what to expect from it, but it protects both of you in case something goes wrong.
In our official T.O.S. discussion post, we discussed what to include in a Terms of Service, what constituted good terms, and what were questionable, shady, or downright illegal terms.
Now, artists, here's your chance to post your T.O.S. for critique. Don't know how to word a particular point you're trying to convey? Want to make sure your T.O.S. is fair for you and your customers? Need to make sure you didn't leave any gigantic loopholes? Link your T.O.S. here, and members can give you their advice.
This post can also be used to discuss any other questions that you have on your mind regarding how to build a T.O.S., maintain a good T.O.S. and how to make sure your clients read and agree to your T.O.S.
Before you post, please read through the previous T.O.S. discussion and maybe even the examples in the last T.O.S. post, apply what you learn there to your T.O.S., and then link your revised T.O.S. here for help polishing up. Please do not post a half-finished T.O.S. and ask folks to rewrite it for you. Be prepared for honest critique!
In our official T.O.S. discussion post, we discussed what to include in a Terms of Service, what constituted good terms, and what were questionable, shady, or downright illegal terms.
Now, artists, here's your chance to post your T.O.S. for critique. Don't know how to word a particular point you're trying to convey? Want to make sure your T.O.S. is fair for you and your customers? Need to make sure you didn't leave any gigantic loopholes? Link your T.O.S. here, and members can give you their advice.
This post can also be used to discuss any other questions that you have on your mind regarding how to build a T.O.S., maintain a good T.O.S. and how to make sure your clients read and agree to your T.O.S.
Before you post, please read through the previous T.O.S. discussion and maybe even the examples in the last T.O.S. post, apply what you learn there to your T.O.S., and then link your revised T.O.S. here for help polishing up. Please do not post a half-finished T.O.S. and ask folks to rewrite it for you. Be prepared for honest critique!
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Date: 2013-09-12 05:53 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1NLHU0zUfVFT71ju0qiDXc_Um-_3aZLdhctOGBogAr1c
(Tos is at the bottom!)
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Date: 2013-09-12 05:58 pm (UTC)I'll link to it once it's up, but I'd like some advice on refunds. I've only ever given out refunds a handful of times and it went smoothly, but I don't think I'm fully prepared for everything.
When I provided refunds before it was for $15 commissions that I'd cancelled myself due to personal reasons, since I'd done the sketches already I kept $2.50 of that to compensate the time I'd taken on them. If I'd done lines or even flats I would have obviously kept more. I think that's how refunds usually go?
The one thing I'm concerned with is someone asking for a refund after I'd completed their commission because they were unhappy with it (I do provide sketches for approval so this should prevent this in most cases). Do I refund them in full? Offer a partial refund with extra art? Offer a second commission at a discounted price?
Any advice would be appreciated!
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Date: 2013-09-12 06:02 pm (UTC)http://quescostumes.com/tos.html
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Date: 2013-09-12 06:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 06:50 pm (UTC)Mine sounds mean and way too formal/complicated.
Would it be horribly unprofessional / lame of me to ask if I could rewrite mine based on yours? I'm not so good with this sort of stuff.
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:01 pm (UTC)I have an opinion question for the group, how bad is a ToS that is too wordy? Are small written paragraphs less desirable than nice simple point form?
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:02 pm (UTC)Well, what if the Client wanted a partial refund + any materials/costume pieces you've completed? How you've written this, it sounds like their mats + partial pieces would be kept or resold.
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 07:07 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 07:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 07:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 07:32 pm (UTC)Here we go! http://ladysbneko.weebly.com/terms-of-service.html
I think it sounds ok, but fixing things up always helps.
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:44 pm (UTC)Here goes nothing. x;
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:48 pm (UTC)I dunno, you could add your policies for traditional artwork and badges?
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Date: 2013-09-12 07:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 08:09 pm (UTC)http://zenia.unixdaemons.com
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Date: 2013-09-12 08:18 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CsoekvIrTUVN43r4PZpf8HTP7mm_0snMnkRoDiieG68/edit?usp=sharing
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Date: 2013-09-12 08:33 pm (UTC)http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/4624953/
In particular I hope I'm not sounding too authoritarian in it, I want to be stern with it but at the same time I strive to be friendly and approachable with my customers.
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Date: 2013-09-12 08:44 pm (UTC)I've realized I haven't mentioned anything specifically for artist-side cancellations so I've added that in.
Thanks for bringing that to my attention!
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Date: 2013-09-12 08:48 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-09-12 08:58 pm (UTC)Hm:
-"The artist reserves the right to cancel due to harassment, improper conduct or poor communication." might be better than "I reserve the right to terminate a commission at any time."
-Adding a clause explaining what happens if the commissioner cancels/or you have to cancel due to commissioner conduct
-Adding a clause asking the client not to post the 300 DPI file to their gallery.
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Date: 2013-09-12 08:59 pm (UTC)https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5043049/
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Date: 2013-09-12 09:02 pm (UTC)2. I will wiggle some stuff around to better explain what happens if I cancel for my own reasons and if I cancel because of their conduct. Though I thought I was clear in regards to cancellations?
3. I never work in 300DPI (anymore) anyway, so that one doesn't count.
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Date: 2013-09-12 09:02 pm (UTC)you have a lot of stuff in super-fine print that seems pretty important. if you want people to read or is important, i wouldn't make it so tiny. the white on purple plus tiny font is hard for me to make out, too, and i skipped over much of it before i realized it was something i should read.
it's confusing to me that you have a "will NOT draw" section, with emphasis on "NOT," but then admit you could possibly be talked into it for "at least 10x the cost." if you will draw these things, why not just outright state "may consider working with this subject matter for 10($x), please inquire"? otherwise just leave it as a "will not draw" section, or separate it into "will draw A for $, will draw B for $$$$$$$$$$, will not draw XYZ."
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Date: 2013-09-12 09:04 pm (UTC)