[identity profile] pingpong101.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
WHO: Roxanna aka Pixen_Vixen

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/roxanna/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pixenvixen/

WHAT: A two piece image set that cost me 20$, in digital art form

WHEN: I sent her the money March 9th, 2013

PROOF: Here is the image where she agreed to it, and gave me her paypal. I blanked out the commission details as well as her email. http://i.imgur.com/VAP9iMX.png

EXPLAIN: I saw this artist while browsing FA and decided I could commission her because I liked her art, and she was struggling with things at the time. So I sent her 20$ (I was not the only one, as she was having a "sale") and I waited and waited and waited. I did not contact her clear until April. I will let the pictures speak for themselves.

http://i.imgur.com/C6GOwi1.png
http://i.imgur.com/fpstvK5.png

So it's been roughly a year now and she must have long since forgotten about me, because I have since seen no notes from her. I never saw anyone else get their art either, with one exception I think. I am also not in her commissions list either, and she continues to push everything off because she has issues. Well, we all have issues, and I can be caring and understanding until I think I am being cheated. I think she uses her mood swings to excuse herself from doing work she was paid for. I don't expect to get the art from her now, but I want to warn people not to commission her.


Current Mood: satisfied


Edit: I contacted her three most used accounts I think. http://i.imgur.com/p9AfJBC.png
Edit 2: Currently talking things over with the artist.
Edit 3: The artist and I have worked out our problems and I have gotten my refund.

Date: 2014-03-13 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
Obviously by her most recent journal, and the number of shouts asking for work, etc; there is zero intention to finish owed work.

Also I noticed that they asked you to pay as gift. I don't care if their art was the best gosh darned thing since green tea ice cream; you never pay for a product/service as "gift". Ever. The "gift" option is for things like donations and other NON transaction-type things.

You also cannot ASK for a "gift" back, which means you're up a creek getting your money back over this.

If anyone ever tries to charge you for a commission and asks you to pay via any type of "gift" option; say thanks but no thanks you do NOT purchase from individuals who try to buck Paypal's system.

Date: 2014-03-13 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/eraviadragonfly/

This is her new active account if you want to try and contact her, or add it to the beware.
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Date: 2014-03-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lovelesskiax.livejournal.com
posts can'r be removed, they are here to stay.

Date: 2014-03-13 09:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mistresswolf.livejournal.com
Posts on Artists_Beware are not allowed to be deleted. Honestly, this beware is pretty valid. Commissioners should not have to track you down on new accounts. It is your responsibility to keep your customers up to date, and if you take money you need to produce the art in a reasonable amount of time or refund it.

Date: 2014-03-13 09:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drone-dragon.livejournal.com
... what everyone else said above. The original poster + moderators can however mark this community entry as "Resolved" after you've refunded the OP, depending on their response afterwards.

However it is comments like this that kind of reflect a negative attitude toward your customers and how you handle them during a conflict of communication. I know you're probably frustrated being posted here on a_b , but rest assured it's not the end of the world.
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Date: 2014-03-13 10:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drone-dragon.livejournal.com
You're also not supposed to delete your own comments in this community.
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Date: 2014-03-13 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drone-dragon.livejournal.com
You don't need to be a part of the community, ( Granted you being posted in an entry already makes you a part of this community ) you should still respect the rules of this community when commissioners / artists / watchers work really hard to maintain civility and integrity in a safe location "[...]to voice positive or difficult experiences with commissioners or artists". Saying fuck you too to commentary also isn't going to help anyone.

I really mean you no disrespect at all. In fact I bet you're probably a really nice person. But coming to this community and making brash comments on a post about bad communication is not going to go over well at all. It's okay to write your side of the situation. But maybe you should take a moment of relaxation and respond when you're more clear headed.

I really am wishing you best.

Date: 2014-03-13 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tylociraptor.livejournal.com
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5582141/

Wow... their reaction is just.... Not cool.
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Date: 2014-03-13 10:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tylociraptor.livejournal.com
... WOW. All you're doing is really confirming the beware against you, resolved with the other or not!
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Date: 2014-03-13 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tylociraptor.livejournal.com
Well, you should. If you are going to take money in exchange for services you should be ready to conduct yourself professionally, even when someone is issuing a beware on you. If you'd come and apologized, and rectified the situation, it would have made you look really good, rather than the way you have responded.
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Date: 2014-03-13 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tylociraptor.livejournal.com
Sorry, but it was. Posting the public, very nasty reaction to being posted on artists_beware is very relevant.
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Date: 2014-03-13 11:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tylociraptor.livejournal.com
I can't go back and quote your comments as you've deleted it.... again, just making yourself look worse!

Date: 2014-03-13 11:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hidden-kyuubi.livejournal.com
Seems beware was warranted with how you respond. I know this stuff can be stressful, but keeping a good attitude with it all can be the difference between a proper resolved post, showing an artist can handle it when things don't go right, or if they can't handle the pressure/stress, yeah..

Date: 2014-03-13 11:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cidal-fun.livejournal.com
Do you have a screenshot? This artists likes to delete things, apparently.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hidden-kyuubi.livejournal.com
No, sadly. I know in some she used an f-bomb and was basically saying she didn't care/had never wanted to be on here and such.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
I just posted some screenshots downthread if you're still interested.

Date: 2014-03-13 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
Because stealing money is 'stupid furry drama'.

Pft.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryunwoofie.livejournal.com
Anyone got caps of the deleted comments and journals?

Date: 2014-03-14 12:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exo-formicidae.livejournal.com
her journals are still available even if she de-activated the account. https://www.furaffinity.net/journals/eraviadragonfly/

The previous now deleted one, was basically saying "if you want a refund, reply to this journal or you're not getting it" But I didn't manage to get a screenshot as I managed to x'the window instead of pinning it
Edited Date: 2014-03-14 12:20 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-03-14 12:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryunwoofie.livejournal.com
There was one posted that was fatal system error so I thought it was deleted. Not her page.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exo-formicidae.livejournal.com
yeah, the one she deleted was the one I didn't get a cap of. so that will be the system error ones. But she later deactivated the page after deleting her comments here. ( refreshed the page like fool)

Date: 2014-03-14 12:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryunwoofie.livejournal.com
Ah I see. Darn.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
I track Bewares so I'll know when they're marked as Resolved for the Monthly Resolved Posts. So, yeah, I've got all her replies in my Gmail inbox. Taking screencaps now.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryunwoofie.livejournal.com
Oh that's good to know. Awesome.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
Done and posted.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
There are so man begging for donations journals, i'm getting a sick sense of deja vu.

She apparently used to be DustyTheMare's roommate.

Date: 2014-03-14 12:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/skypropony/

Have another account.

It doesn't seem to be active at this time.

Mod Post

Date: 2014-03-14 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
Not even bothering to warn. [livejournal.com profile] eravia is permanently banned for:

Language
Deleting comments

Did herself a real disservice there. Will update tags with her other accounts, space withstanding.

Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
Pixen_Vixen's now-deleted comments on this post, screencapped from my Gmail inbox (her username is [livejournal.com profile] eravia):

http://imgur.com/AH424R8 -- Initial response
http://imgur.com/qbBFnDI -- exchange including F-bomb
http://imgur.com/AkFNW7F -- more exchange

Hope it's relatively clear, the way Gmail organizes stuff is a little bit of a pain, but it should be easy enough to piece together.

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drone-dragon.livejournal.com
Oh wow. I had no idea that she had left me a comment after all the major deletions addressing: her being close to tears, not wanting to be a part of the fandom, or having an entire year of pain.
I kind of feel bad. :(

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
To be fair, I don't think it excuses the way she behaved whatsoever.

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 01:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drone-dragon.livejournal.com
Agreed, it was far from professional to go off on the commissioner looking for clarity. I just have a succinct hunch that she probably had a good apology/explanation/side of the story to tie up the miscommunication. Unfortunately none of that really came out as a productive response.

comment edited for poor grammar usage.
Edited Date: 2014-03-14 01:08 am (UTC)

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
Looking through her journals she tends to pull this kind of stuff... well, a lot. It's not that I don't have pity for her clear troubles with mental illness, but when I see things like this; http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5327132/#cid:37527685

I have trouble feeling 'bad'.

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yarbro.livejournal.com
That is a red flag. She is rude. There is no excuse for it.

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-14 02:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ryunwoofie.livejournal.com
I hope she sticks to her word with not selling anymore. Way unprofessional and immature, life crisis happening right now or not.

Thanks for posting these.

Re: Screencaps of Deleted Comments

Date: 2014-03-16 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladysnakebite.livejournal.com
Hrm. Dunno what happened, it was working the other day. Anyway, here's another upload of it:

http://imgur.com/x6zVwh8

Date: 2014-03-16 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
I'm happy to see you got a refund. If you feel its fully resolved, I'll mark it as such.

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