Beware: Chyuu/Sibyl.

[sweepshire.livejournal.com]

This is a follow up to this post as a few people expressed interest in a full beware. Some information is missing due to it happening last year and I'd like to apologize for that in advance. If there's any information needed I'll try my hardest to dig it up, otherwise I'll be trying my best to recount what happened as accurately as possible.

EDIT: Both the Chyuu account and character have been sold to two different people who are not part of this beware, this is only about the user Sibyl.


WHO: Chyuu/Sibyl.

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/chyuu (apparently abandoned), http://chyuukitty.tumblr.com, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sibyl.

WHAT: A commission done in the style of the Animal Crossing series, the completed commission can be found here.

WHEN: Commission was accepted September 23rd 2013, and payment was sent on the same day. Commission was completed on October 3rd.

PROOF: -The original journal
-Chyuu expressing interest in a slot
-The completed form
-I sent an invoice, and Chyuu said they would pay in a few hours
-More info in the explain section, if a paypal screencap is required I can try to find it

EXPLAIN: As you can see in the proof section, I opened AC-style commissions on September 23rd last year, Chyuu expressed interest in one and ordered a slot, they filled out the form I provided and I sent them an invoice for payment. This is when the trouble first started.

-I received this note a few hours after Chyuu's previous reply. On its own I found the note condescending at most but looking back I can see it was my first warning sign. I explain that Paypal could track my account through my username and I was simply protecting myself. (I should add that I don't do nsfw work anymore but still don't include my usernames in notes just to be safe). I started to get suspicious at this point due to them claiming they were on a low budget yet had ordered other art, but this was none of my business so I didn't mention it.

-I expected them to send payment after this but the invoice was still unpaid, so sent a follow up note a while later reminding them. I received this reply, the sudden change in tone threw me off a little but they did pay their invoice.

-The note with their completed commission. I want to point out that I'd mentioned not to use the hires file when reposting in the note, as I do whenever I send files to my customers. I'd also like to point out my ToS where it's also mentioned - "You may repost your commission if you link back to one of my galleries.
You may only repost the lowres version. You may edit the hires to use as icons, banners, part of a layout, etc. but please credit me." I never received a reply to this note.

-Chyuu then reposted their commission to their gallery. This is how it currently looks, but originally there was no mention of my name. They'd also uploaded the hires version which did not have a watermark. I asked them to credit me but they only added my username to the title, despite my ToS asking for a link back. I originally didn't notice they'd used the hires file, but asked them to change it which they did. You can see the entire comment thread here.

-Chyuu reposted their commission again. As before this is how it currently looks. I didn't think to screencap them originally as I was never planning on posting this to A_B. They'd used the lowres file but had once again not credited me. I noted them to ask for credit, this note was ignored.

-I noted Chyuu again about credit. I admit I was getting a bit tired of their behaviour so my tone may be a little off from now on which I apologize for! Chyuu replied almost immediately, and continued to do so despite claiming to be busy. Again, I got a little snippy but I found their reply ironic considering they hadn't credited me.

-Like before Chyuu didn't link back to my page, the last time I let it go but at this point I really just wanted credit for my artwork. (NSFW) This is what the link leads to. Again, despite claiming to be busy they had time to screencap their gallery yet couldn't simply credit me. I'd actually gone through their gallery at this point to see if their claims were true and found a handful of artwork they hadn't credited, even ignoring someone who had asked for the source in the comments. Again, I can dig up proof of this but I feel it's not entirely relevant to my post.

-I asked them to also credit me properly in the first submission. They finally linked back to my profile even if the links are in the bottom right corner of the description.

-Chyuu simply replies with this. At this point I'd had enough of their behaviour and told them they were blacklisted. I then blocked Chyuu and thought this would be the end of it.

-I don't have proof of this which I apologize for again, but Chyuu then went and reposted their commission to their Tumblr with no credit. I can't remember which file it was but I do remember it being around January this year. Their URL was 'thecuterednote' but the account has since been deleted. Tumblr has a page which you can submit DMCA notices to, I filled out the form and Tumblr took the submission down.

-Chyuu has since posted this commission at least one more time to my knowledge. Once again there's no credit and they've posted the hires file. I've sent another DMCA to Tumblr and am waiting to hear back as I write this. The Tumblr this was posted to has since been abandoned and their new Tumblr was posted in the 'where' section. EDIT: Tumblr has removed the post

In Conclusion: Chyuu has ignored my ToS and requests on multiple occasions, it's been several months since I took their commission and I'm disappointed that I'm still dealing with this. I'm also worried they've reposted this commission in other places that I haven't found yet. They may continue to disrespect other artists and I'd like to warn them not to do business with this customer.

Comments

[timelapsedecay.livejournal.com]

Yikes. Thank you for making a beware!

(frozen)

[lackoflollies.livejournal.com]

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5923288/

Considering this is the first thing I see on her page, on top of the beware itself, makes me avoid this person at all costs.

(frozen)

[starcharmer.livejournal.com]

I wonder if that's referring to Cranked-Mutt. I actually first heard of Sibyl earlier today when I randomly saw [someone I watch uploaded a commish for her] she had added round red glasses to her character. It made me wonder if there would be drama between those two because of it.

Call out journals are forbidden on FA so yeah, that really leaves a bad taste. :/

[lovestyle.livejournal.com]

Talk about giving you the run around! Thanks for taking the time to post this.

[whoop-zi.livejournal.com]

oh, yikes. i feel like every time this person's name has come up somewhere it's been trouble, so thanks for making this beware too!

[sacch.livejournal.com]

I've heard nothing but bad things about this user. Beware well warranted.

[thaily.livejournal.com]

Oh, glad it's not about Sybil@Weasyl, I was surprised; she always seems to get a lot of work done.

As for this person, ew. I wonder if she treated the other artists she commissioned this way. That is unacceptable :/

[timelapsedecay.livejournal.com]

Heyo ;D /brofist
I thought it was me too for half a second! I was like NO WHAT DID I DO

[teekchan.livejournal.com]

She ignored my ToS as well, and when I told her I would abide by it she refused to credit me as well, and actually went further by running my name through the mud too.

I already attempted to post an AB when it happened and it was turned down though.

So I'll just add that I had just as bad a time as Sweep did with her.

[sweepshire.livejournal.com]

If you don't mind I really think you should post that cap of her Tumblr post on you, I think it shows how nasty her attitude can be and would serve as an extra beware.

[cdemonkam.livejournal.com]

Youch.
Beware warranted.

[tealmoonxiv.livejournal.com]

Yuck.

[naparum.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I've done commissions for her in the past, I should probably dig through and make sure I got credited. :/

It's strange, because she was actually perfectly fine when I was working with her, but lately I've heard all sorts of crazy things about her behavior. What a shame.

[teekchan.livejournal.com]

She is totally great until you do one tiny thing she doesnt like, as I had worked with her perfectly before my issues with her too.

[latiro.livejournal.com]

Un-watched her. This is just unacceptable behaviour, especially with the call-out journals/Tumblr posts on Cranked-Mutt. Beware warranted.

[metallik-hasse.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure what was the conclusion of auctions like this that includes giving art my other artists to people when they win a character. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13972777/ is that kosher?

[celestinaketzia.livejournal.com]

It's going to depend on the original artists if they're comfortable with it. I see this kind of thing happen quite a bit.

[chaoscalix.livejournal.com]

All things considered, I'd also recommend filing to have her removed from the Trusted Commissioners * list, as it seems wrong for her to wave that around now that this has been posted.

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/trustedcommissioners

Thanks for posting this. I've passed it on to the artists I have on my skype contacts so that they are aware of this issue.

[moondoge.livejournal.com]

I think the admins of that account must review this case first, and unsatisfied artists to contact them about it too. Like linking them this page to make it work.

*corrected grammar

[lackoflollies.livejournal.com]

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13987996/#cid:85261295

I find this ironic.

[teekchan.livejournal.com]

Im more concerned she's still hiding who she is. I know that Teil had her blacklisted before. She's using the new account to get around blacklists.

My ban evasion TT is STILL unanswered.

Mod Comment

[celestinaketzia.livejournal.com]

I'm screening this as this is incredibly off topic to the beware. I'll have a senior mod look over it and give a final decision.

[kittysmoosh.livejournal.com]

looks like they now have a weasyl account as well here - https://www.weasyl.com/~sibyl

[teekchan.livejournal.com]

I was noted today by a user saying they bought Chyuu and was asking for permission to repost.

The user is http://www.furaffinity.net/user/lunar-orchid/

And the Chyuu page says she was sold to https://www.furaffinity.net/user/kleine.chii

I have no idea if these people are the same as the one stated in the OP or not. Just a heads up as this may be getting messy if she was indeed sold to 3 people.

[celestinaketzia.livejournal.com]

Well lunar_orchids is a member here. Maybe she can drop in and clear it up, because that's pretty bad!

[lackoflollies.livejournal.com]

I find it hilarious that after posting a journal saying they were using the account as Chyuu character's newest home, they start using the account as if they are someone else entirely;

http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5959483/#cid:41402765

[dragontripmon.livejournal.com]

I really don't know what to say since they just ousted themselves considering seeing the main account suspended as well as a evasion account.

EDIT: Just saw this. http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5958200/ and wow that is really awful but still evading a suspension is not a good idea.

MOD MODE - Keep on topic to the post!

[arphalia.livejournal.com]

This is a general mod note to everyone:

PLEASE take any further commentary about the sale of Chyuu account to PMs or a more appropriate community.

Several threads here have had mod notes about staying on topic and its getting a bit out of hand.

Once again, in case you missed it:

*** PLEASE take any further commentary about the sale of Chyuu account to PMs or a more appropriate community.***

Thanks! :)

Re: MOD MODE - Keep on topic to the post!

[sibyl wiggle (from livejournal.com)]

Please take this down as it was not even posted fairly and is not even correct they started to freak out on me late at night! I ALWAYS give credit and ALWAYS pay on time

Not even fair

[sibyl wiggle (from livejournal.com)]

I always give credit to the artists who made the art. ALWAYS. And I ALWAYS pay on time. This is just horrid to read all this shit about me. Try talking to me first instead of flipping out and having me blacklisted. And Teil knows my new account , all do I am not trying to get around black lists or any of that. Please do not keep dragging my name through the dirt. I posted the original posters art late at night and forgot to post it just ONCE, I always always give credit and PAY ON TIME. I am not a bad person so please stop making me out to be one.

Re: Not even fair

[sweepshire.livejournal.com]

You didn't credit me properly/posted the hires file four times, not once. I did try talking to you when I asked you several times to credit me, yet you continued doing it. This never would have happened if you'd read and respected my ToS?

New developments!

[william sinclair (from livejournal.com)]

https://twitter.com/LeGryffin/status/569303428683452416

Re: New developments!

[sbneko.livejournal.com]

That's really disappointing :

Recent related issue!

[smokedback.livejournal.com]

Going to follow up with this post since sibyl swiftly took the links down after the auction ended. I have additional screen caps of the auction as well as saved pages.

24/2/2015
1. Sibyl puts up a character auction with this image. http://gyazo.com/693e726b8ecb2da8e2c93579d7e90772

The image and description shows no credit to grinninonos to the point where the image itself is edited and crops off grinningonos’ signiture when compared to the original
(Warning NSFW!) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/14401661/ I don't believe GrinningOnos was aware of this auction as well. Eventually after several comments asking who the artist that created the character was, Sibyl finally adds credit to the artist in the description of the submission.

2. Then the auction suddenly changes with an image change and the addition of a second character. http://gyazo.com/43e6ea7a5dbb3d83bb1f9f199e9b8643

This character does belong to sibyl but what must be noted is the ref sheet of the character.
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/15469722/
It was drawn by Aquatics a month ago which they did for free despite sibyl saying at the time she was short on cash. Taken from their description:
“Anywho, this is a refsheet done for sibyl. sibyl. who's been a bit down on cash, and I decided was super kind, and deserved some pretty art of their new character!”

For the artist who, (out of kindness mind) did a full ref sheet for someone only to be used a month later for an auction (to be auto bought for $30) is something I find to be in very poor taste.

Sibyl moved to new account!!

[whatintheworldd.livejournal.com]

Just a future warning, Sibyl seems to be moving to a new account, or is at least making an alt; http://www.furaffinity.net/user/zailey/ so please be careful if this person decides to commission you!

Re: Sibyl moved to new account!!

[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

How are you sure this is Sibyl?

New account

[lemonpielime.livejournal.com]

I can confirm she has another new account :/ Seems she is block evading again.