I've been sitting on this for a while and something about this is bothering me.
In the last note in the exchange here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/h8yjxwfqivhl3d3/Second%20Update%20Log.png) (very bottom note, bottom sentence), you threatened to report Crystal to Paypal for adult works for breaking their TOS, and therefore shutting her account down.
I don't think this is okay. At all. I get that she was holding money from you and was refusing a refund, but that's crossing over the line- you're messing with their livelihood and getting into their personal life; and unless they're obviously using Paypal to steal and commit fraud (Pirate-Cashoo, Starfinder, etc) then even threatening to report her to Paypal is beyond unnecessary in my opinion. Just because of that, I'm honestly afraid to do business with you, lest you do that out of spite for whatever reason.
Paypal is the ONLY way some full-time artists can get their income (given the majority of commissioners use it), and it's the most popular payment platform out there. If you freeze their Paypal, there goes that job. There goes their income. I don't even think Crystal-For-Ever, crappy service or not, was deserving of that. Yeah, you wanted your refund, but you could have threatened to just call Paypal and see if you could open a dispute. I bet that would have been enough.
We have no idea how long her actual backlog is, and until we know for sure, how do we know if she's really using her Paypal account to scam and hold money from a mass amount of people? I'm not defending her actions in the slightest, holding your money was wrong and unprofessional and her other beware posted also shed some bad light.
However, you bought the artwork, from a seller with "obscene" products, therefore you were also using paypal for "obscene" content. Wouldn't that get YOU suspended as well?
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Date: 2014-10-03 05:20 am (UTC)In the last note in the exchange here (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/h8yjxwfqivhl3d3/Second%20Update%20Log.png) (very bottom note, bottom sentence), you threatened to report Crystal to Paypal for adult works for breaking their TOS, and therefore shutting her account down.
I don't think this is okay. At all. I get that she was holding money from you and was refusing a refund, but that's crossing over the line- you're messing with their livelihood and getting into their personal life; and unless they're obviously using Paypal to steal and commit fraud (Pirate-Cashoo, Starfinder, etc) then even threatening to report her to Paypal is beyond unnecessary in my opinion. Just because of that, I'm honestly afraid to do business with you, lest you do that out of spite for whatever reason.
Paypal is the ONLY way some full-time artists can get their income (given the majority of commissioners use it), and it's the most popular payment platform out there. If you freeze their Paypal, there goes that job. There goes their income. I don't even think Crystal-For-Ever, crappy service or not, was deserving of that. Yeah, you wanted your refund, but you could have threatened to just call Paypal and see if you could open a dispute. I bet that would have been enough.
We have no idea how long her actual backlog is, and until we know for sure, how do we know if she's really using her Paypal account to scam and hold money from a mass amount of people? I'm not defending her actions in the slightest, holding your money was wrong and unprofessional and her other beware posted also shed some bad light.
However, you bought the artwork, from a seller with "obscene" products, therefore you were also using paypal for "obscene" content. Wouldn't that get YOU suspended as well?