"Artists Beware"

Dunno how I managed to copy the wrong beware, but it's fixed!

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tylociraptor.livejournal.com

The original link leads to the wrong beware, FYI.

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Without seeing the original images linked in the post this almost seems to warrant a beware for the original poster. They seemed to expect the art almost instantly, did I miss something here?

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kayla-la.livejournal.com

I know it's a bit of a bother, but you can type in the links as you see them. If I have the time tomorrow I might rehost them.

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I should have done that. I sort of assumed the OP would have pulled those too. Plus I might just be a little lazy =P

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sbneko.livejournal.com

Just to fill you in while you have to wait for actual links; the artist promised it in a certain time frame. I was confused by how quick they wanted the art too t'ill I read more into it.

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Ahh OK. Thanks for clarifying :-)

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If you're interested, I posted the actual accounts of what happened below, not the botched recounts from this shady commissioner. The commissioner did not even commission art from me, as the first point.

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If you're interested, I posted the actual accounts of what happened below, not the botched recounts from this shady commissioner. The commissioner did not even commission art from me, as the first point.

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Links in order:
http://a-very-lost-little-girl.tumblr.com/
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/littleredloli
https://twitter.com/doomyandgloomy

http://i.imgur.com/OzEE8z5.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qI6j4HD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hc39mW0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gcj0UPh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PeNLUbr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QJEylmc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QrvY0ST.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0LhNMMd.jpg

It seems as though the OP wants their art in a hurry, BUT, in the OP's defense, the artist did say they'd start on it right away, and her art looks like it could be done within fairly short order; like there's no hugely detailed backgrounds or highly detailed fur texture and such. So 2 weeks without even a thumbnail or sketch?

And they do seem to be on-line continuously, though they don't have a lot of uploads to their FA within that period. The "Oh it's not me it's a friend using my account" excuse never really flies though, it's usually just that; an excuse. Especially considering the nature of the activity on littleredloli's FA account.

Between the OP commissioning her and today, littleredloli seems to have offered freebies 3 times including 1 freebie stream, and has advertised icon commissions and a YCH, the latter of which has also been finished. So they seem to think they have time to take on new work, which means they have no excuse to not just get the OP's commission done and over with.

Normally I'd be leery of someone asking for a refund within 2 weeks of paying, but in this case, the artist doesn't appear terribly reliable. I can only theorize the OP deleted the post in trade for their art or a refund (which is also skeevy since it allows the artist to get away with poor business practices).

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What really throws me off about this whole thing is the Tumblr cap. Why on earth is your "friend" answering your asks?

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I've also never heard of anybody requesting somebody else to keep updating their personal blog... If this had been some kind of shared community/project tumblr maybe that'd slide, but :/

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finnickodair.livejournal.com

It's actually not that uncommon (or at least, I see it relatively commonly in the parts of fandom that I'm in, I can't say whether it's global or not) to have someone blogsit if you're not going to have time for a while, because you tend to shed followers pretty quickly on tumblr if you're not active for more than a few days. I've organised friends to blogsit for me before when I've been very busy with exams or family issues and can't be on for a long enough period that my queue will run out and I'll be doing it over Christmas since I'll only have limited internet access, and a lot of my dash has done it at various points. (I think it IS a practice that is pretty tumblr specific, though, with the way tumblr blogging involves reblogging from other people rather than entirely your own content, and the need to stay on people's dashes or lose them being a bit more.. uh, rapid fire)

However, usually this is pretty clearly indicated (ie, there's usually a post saying someone will be blogsitting so everything will continue as normal) and people will almost always use some sort of 'so-and-so blogsits' tag to make it clear what's going on.

Which isn't to necessarily say this person wasn't lying about it being a friend blogging for them, and either way, there's the rest of the stuff, just clarifying that blogsitting isn't an unheard of practice on tumblr.

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That's really interesting! Thank you for clarifying that. I'm not really that active on tumblr, and am still more of a dreamwidth/livejournal person, myself, hence why I felt like it was a strange thing to claim.

But, yes, the artist should have indicated, then, if they were having someone blogsit or not. :o

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If you're interested, I posted the actual accounts of what happened below, not the botched recounts from this shady commissioner. The commissioner did not even commission art from me, as the first point.

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Tumblr lets you schedule posts though, so. Still no reason to let a friend use your Tumblr for you. Or if they did, why would they answer asks intended for a specific person? I'm still skeptical.

Edit: Read LRD's account, in which she admitted she lied about not being her, which is entirely forgivable considering the circumstances. Yikes.

Edited Date: 2014-12-17 07:26 pm (UTC)

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If you're interested, I posted the actual accounts of what happened below, not the botched recounts from this shady commissioner. The commissioner did not even commission art from me, as the first point.

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haha awkward... littleredloli often commissions me, lately its been these $5 sketches ive been offering on and off as warmups. just tonight they ordered one, but in the past few weeks have ordered multiples. sooo... i mean, they have money apparently, did OP ever ask for a refund? might be the best option here.

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(Copypasting the same message everyone else is getting, even though I sort of know you?)
If you're interested, I posted the actual accounts of what happened below, not the botched recounts from this shady commissioner. The commissioner did not even commission art from me, as the first point.

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wow holy shit! that is.. that is something.. i'm really sorry you went through that 8( yeah they made it seem like it was for art or something in those posts, that's so messed up. honestly i can't blame you for going through with it in hopes of it getting him off your back.. i just
wow

this is extremely fucked up 8I;;;

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Like
I don't
I don't even DO NSFW art. There's a single picture I've ever drawn of it. And it's bad. And of my own fursona. Like... No.

I just can't.

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Alright, time for my side of the story.

Let me say that, first and foremost, this user did not commission me as an artist. He's being completely and utterly misleading about that. He commissioned me for photographs and a video of myself, doing adult acts. I'd never done it before, but I was desperate and needed money to pay bills (because adult life).

I sent him an email after the one where I'd said that he could either send the money now, or wait until after I was done, stating that I would actually be more comfortable if he did not send it until after he had his pictures, because I work better that way, and it's less stressful for me. He did not even acknowledge that I sent it, and ignored it.

At some point or another, he started stalking me. I'm not sure at what point this started happening, because I don't have logs of it. But it was before he asked for his refund the first time.
When I told him that I had a new roommate move in unexpectedly, that was entirely true. My mate's friend suddenly had nowhere to go, so we went in two days from having a pretty damn cozy-close apartment to ourselves, to having a third person as well, who was sort of bad about personal space things. Life also threw a lot of shit my way, such as me having to drive 5 hours to visit my mother for a weekend to help with a bunch of cleaning and home-preparation for a new baby.
Anyhow, about the stalking.

From my Tumblr page, this user somehow found my Furaffinity page. As far as I can tell, the only thing linking the page to me at all are a couple pictures of my fursona, and none of them mention my username. I received a follow from his furaffinity account. (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/enkidu6)
As you can see, the account has literally nothing on it, and has no signs of being used for more than a day. He left a comment on a photo that I posted, with lewd descriptions of the pictures that he ordered, and demanded to know why he had not gotten them yet. I hid it, because it was totally uncouth and not appropriate for being said in public? He should have noted me about it instead of leaving such a thing. I chose to ignore it at that point (dumb idea) because I was honestly just really pissed about it, and planned on emailing him about that the next day.

The next day rolled around, and he somehow found his way to my private Twitter account, which is almost exclusively used to communicate with offline friends. There's no link to it on either of the former sites (being Furaffinity and Tumblr). He tweeted at me there, on another completely unused but for a day account (https://twitter.com/Enkidu61). I'm not sure why the tweet doesn't show up, though it might be because I promptly deleted and reported the tweet for being harassing and from someone who I now believed was stalking me.

At some point, I sent him that message on Tumblr, pretending to not be me. I know, lying, not cool, but I honestly can NOT deal with this stuff well in the slightest, and he had not listened to any of the emails that I sent him or completely legitimate reasons as to why I could not do these pictures right away, I kind of blanked and went into protection mode.

The day after that message was sent, he failed to mention conveniently, that he stalked me on my PRIVATE FACEBOOK PAGE. For offline friends and family ONLY. There is no link, whatsoever, to any of my other websites either to or from that page. It has my full name, my address, basically all my identifying information. THAT is when I knew that, without a doubt, this guy was seriously creepy, and I wanted nothing to do with him. I actually had to lock myself into my bedroom to take his damn pictures (and I managed to make my mate really worried, because I was kind of freaked out and crying, and was far too ashamed and embarrassed to tell him what I was doing), because I didn't have the $30 to refund him back, and I knew that if I blocked him in one place, he'd pop up in another like had kept happening. (1/2)

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He even popped himself up on my Weasyl (which hasn't been touched since April), and as of me literally just checking, my Inkbunny as well, which also had not been touched since April. Note that while my Weasyl is probably mentioned in a journal of mine, my Inkbunny account has never been told to anyone off of that website. The username isn't even the same. He did get his pictures, and then the final email he sent me was "pleasure doing business with you" with a smile at the end of it. I told him to never contact me again, because I refused to deal with psychopathic internet stalkers, to which he just responded with another smile.

I also just checked, and he decided to post the pictures up onto his tumblr, with absolutely no anything towards me, not even a blog name mention in a tag, not that it was a commission, not anything. I also just realized, he posted the video to an extremely popular porn website, all without my permission.
At this point, I actually just /do not/ know what to do about this.
(2/2)

EDIT: OP HAD GOTTEN HIS PICTURES A WEEK BEFORE HE EVEN POSTED THIS, YET MADE NO MENTION OF EVER RECEIVING THEM. Here's a screencap of the email (with email addresses blacked out) as proof. (http://gyazo.com/579b9f5d21e9b6a3aabbb4515200e92b)

Edited Date: 2014-12-17 09:00 am (UTC)

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kayla-la.livejournal.com

Ah, that would explain why he deleted the post practically as soon as it went up, and I guess why he didn't bother to reply to me asking him why.

It's pretty late at night at this point. However, would you mind if I PMed you over how to handle this, now that we have a better picture of what went on?

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Of course, feel free. I'll be up.

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Yikes on bikes. I am so sorry this happened.

All I can really say is that I would not have pushed through with giving him the photos and just refunded him, even if it meant saving for the refund slowly but surely, because based on his stalking behavior he is not somebody I would have wanted to have their hands on photos/videos of that nature. I'm not saying this is your fault! He totally ran over your boundaries and did things without your consent which is super gross. But definitely don't do business with any future shady characters like this. :(

He should never have posted them up on all those sites without your permission! Grossgrossgross. I'm just not sure how you can report a case like this, as far as I know though if you file a report those places should be legally obligated to take them down?

Please stay safe!

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I went to file a complaint to the site the video is hosted on, and I legitimately don't see a category under which I could send them a "please take this down, it's of me and was posted without my permission" plea.

;~;

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Did they provide any other means of contact? E-mail perhaps? :(

If you're okay with letting me know the name of the site which it was posted on through PM, I'll try and poke around to see if there's any way to report those things.

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Wow :( Hope you feel better soon over this!

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now given littleredloli's explanation, does anyone else get skeevy feels from his original post, where he put 'out of all of the artists i've commissioned this was the worst experience'... i'm kind of concerned if he's done this to other people in the same vein of stalking and demanding adult pictures and videos..? 8(

definitely someone to watch out for regardless.. i wonder if there's a way to find his ip through any of the sites, i doubt fa would comply but weasyl, inkbunny, etc? might be willing to see and consider keeping him off of their sites?

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kayla-la.livejournal.com

I know it's a sensitive issue, but I would rather things like discussing getting personal information not be discussed here on AB, please.

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ah sorry- i didn't mean that people should seek out his information, i meant through the mods in privacy, my bad 8(

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Just need to put this here: The above mod and I have been talking, and I've decided that even though it was offered that this could be deleted, I want to leave it up, as a way to show people of the OPs skeevy behavior, and to have my side of the story known.

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Have you been able to refund him yet? So as to get rid of him (insomuch he doesn't just continue to harass you anyway, even though you don't owe him anything anymore).

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No, I won't be refundimg him. He hasn't bothere me since, but... Honestly if anything, I feel like keeping that money is the least I can do tel keep myself feeling okay. He did get what he ordered and all, and then some.

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Oh he got the stuff even, and he's still.. Ah.. This community forbids namecalling, so.. Feel free to insert your own here as you read this.

Wow..

I hope you and everyone else never has to deal with this [CENSORED] again.

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He already got what he had paid for. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt in that he posted this beware maliciously after the delivery of the item. The actual timestamp on the post in the queue was Dec 8th, which is the same day the Artist delivered their part of the transaction.

Why he never contacted a mod to pull it is anyone's guess.

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sableantelope.livejournal.com

I can't help thinking it might be fair to Lilredloli to add a 'beware: enkidu6' tag on this? He lied in his original beware about the facts of the purchase and etc.

Unless I've misunderstood the explination, here? I admit being on more painkillers than usual so may have missed a glaring fact, but this does look like it was a beware against the buyer who lied about what they bought, and also lied about getting what they bought. And posted a beware just to try and be nasty? Or force communication from Lrl who had ended communication.

I dunno, doesn't seem resolved actually sums up the situation(and I know AB has to be careful with tags because there is a tag limit) but I can't help feeling a beware against enkidu whould be deserved here.

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