Official ToS Review Post
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For an artist, be you a hobbyist or pro; it is positively critical to have a good, solid Terms of Service (T.O.S.). One that includes both your rights as the artist and the customer's rights in relation to your services. Not only does this educate your customers on how the process works and what to expect from it, but it protects both of you in case something goes wrong.
In our first official T.O.S. discussion post, we discussed what to include in a Terms of Service, what constituted good terms, and what were questionable, shady, or downright illegal terms.
Now, once again; here's your chance to post your T.O.S. for critique. Don't know how to word a particular point you're trying to convey? Want to make sure your T.O.S. is fair for you and your customers? Need to make sure you didn't leave any gigantic loopholes? Link your T.O.S. here, and members can give you their advice.
This post can also be used to discuss any other questions that you have on your mind regarding how to build a T.O.S., maintain a good T.O.S. and how to make sure your clients read and agree to your T.O.S.
Before you post, please read through the previous T.O.S. discussions; apply what you learn there to your T.O.S., and then link your revised T.O.S. here for help polishing up.
Please do not post a half-finished T.O.S. and ask folks to rewrite it for you. Be prepared for honest critique!
A good 'break down' for a T.O.S.:
Intro
Artist's Rights
-Payment
-Process
-Preferences
-Publishing
Client's Rights
-Fixes/Redraws
-Publishing
-Behavior
Communication
Refunds
Shipping & Handling
-When it comes to an artist's preferences for what they will or will not draw; simple is often better. You -may- list what you are not willing to draw, but it can get lengthy. If you're not willing to list, or find your list getting longer than your own T.O.S.; but do not might getting ideas pitched at you to pick from, a good solid "Commission themes are to be approved at artist's discretion at all times. Artist reserves the right to decline any commission, without reason." will help you out.
-When talking payment, the community majority is in favor of using Paypal INVOICES. Invoices give the artist control over how much money they're getting, when they get it, and the content of the invoice (in case you're afraid of what a client may write in your place).
-Fixes/Redraws need to have a firm hard limit set to them, as well as some suggestions to go along with them. Detail WHAT part of the process a client may (or may not) ask for fixes on, how many they get and if they go over that limit; what you will charge additionally for it. Also suggest the client wait a minimum of 24-48 hours (if you can afford that wait) to really find out what they want fixed or what they can live with, to the satisfaction of you and themselves.
-Tell your clients in the T.O.S. what you will not tolerate from them from the get-go. If you do not appreciate sexual advances/role-play/commentary; state it in the T.O.S. that you don't play those games and such behavior will not be tolerated during the commission process.
-Communication: State to potential clients how often you'll be in contact with them, or your comfort level in them contacting you for status updates, or where to look for updates if you use a service like Trello or keep a queue maintained on your blog/art site/etc.
-Remind your clients of your rights as the artist, that you own the artwork created due to copyright law. You have full publication/printing rights, but will out of respect to them ask if you can print their commissions for other purposes. If you give re-posting rights to your clients; state here and now where they can or cannot post to, if they have to use a watermarked copy you provide, etc.
-PRIVACY: State your policies (and applicable fees) on privacy of commissions, if you require permissions of secondary characters involved in said private commissions and the possible longevity of how long a private commission may stay private.
-Include refunding options, when a client is a allowed to back out, deposit fees (if building tangible art), etc. Just don't say 'no refunds, what so ever'.
Remember; the tips in the above cut are only the tip of the iceberg for a T.O.S. they're there to get your brain going on what to do. The Mods or even long time comm members will be absolutely glad to offer their two-cents on any other questions or topics you have come to mind, on top of the critique.
If you feel your T.O.S. is quite solid feel free to post it so others can use it as an example.
In our first official T.O.S. discussion post, we discussed what to include in a Terms of Service, what constituted good terms, and what were questionable, shady, or downright illegal terms.
Now, once again; here's your chance to post your T.O.S. for critique. Don't know how to word a particular point you're trying to convey? Want to make sure your T.O.S. is fair for you and your customers? Need to make sure you didn't leave any gigantic loopholes? Link your T.O.S. here, and members can give you their advice.
This post can also be used to discuss any other questions that you have on your mind regarding how to build a T.O.S., maintain a good T.O.S. and how to make sure your clients read and agree to your T.O.S.
Before you post, please read through the previous T.O.S. discussions; apply what you learn there to your T.O.S., and then link your revised T.O.S. here for help polishing up.
Please do not post a half-finished T.O.S. and ask folks to rewrite it for you. Be prepared for honest critique!
Intro
Artist's Rights
-Payment
-Process
-Preferences
-Publishing
Client's Rights
-Fixes/Redraws
-Publishing
-Behavior
Communication
Refunds
Shipping & Handling
-When it comes to an artist's preferences for what they will or will not draw; simple is often better. You -may- list what you are not willing to draw, but it can get lengthy. If you're not willing to list, or find your list getting longer than your own T.O.S.; but do not might getting ideas pitched at you to pick from, a good solid "Commission themes are to be approved at artist's discretion at all times. Artist reserves the right to decline any commission, without reason." will help you out.
-When talking payment, the community majority is in favor of using Paypal INVOICES. Invoices give the artist control over how much money they're getting, when they get it, and the content of the invoice (in case you're afraid of what a client may write in your place).
-Fixes/Redraws need to have a firm hard limit set to them, as well as some suggestions to go along with them. Detail WHAT part of the process a client may (or may not) ask for fixes on, how many they get and if they go over that limit; what you will charge additionally for it. Also suggest the client wait a minimum of 24-48 hours (if you can afford that wait) to really find out what they want fixed or what they can live with, to the satisfaction of you and themselves.
-Tell your clients in the T.O.S. what you will not tolerate from them from the get-go. If you do not appreciate sexual advances/role-play/commentary; state it in the T.O.S. that you don't play those games and such behavior will not be tolerated during the commission process.
-Communication: State to potential clients how often you'll be in contact with them, or your comfort level in them contacting you for status updates, or where to look for updates if you use a service like Trello or keep a queue maintained on your blog/art site/etc.
-Remind your clients of your rights as the artist, that you own the artwork created due to copyright law. You have full publication/printing rights, but will out of respect to them ask if you can print their commissions for other purposes. If you give re-posting rights to your clients; state here and now where they can or cannot post to, if they have to use a watermarked copy you provide, etc.
-PRIVACY: State your policies (and applicable fees) on privacy of commissions, if you require permissions of secondary characters involved in said private commissions and the possible longevity of how long a private commission may stay private.
-Include refunding options, when a client is a allowed to back out, deposit fees (if building tangible art), etc. Just don't say 'no refunds, what so ever'.
Remember; the tips in the above cut are only the tip of the iceberg for a T.O.S. they're there to get your brain going on what to do. The Mods or even long time comm members will be absolutely glad to offer their two-cents on any other questions or topics you have come to mind, on top of the critique.
If you feel your T.O.S. is quite solid feel free to post it so others can use it as an example.
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Date: 2015-03-08 09:47 pm (UTC)Going to offer mine up as an example. It's been kicked around over the years, but has pretty much stayed the same.
Of course if you have any suggestions/ tweaks I'd be happy to hear!
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Date: 2015-03-08 10:34 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/13nFLkx9OoxdpYDMEpSjq0W-sIBkwQ7onhZMEpemNVCc/
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Date: 2015-03-09 12:21 am (UTC)I have seen TOS where it sounds like the artist will keep a portion of the customer's money if they cancel for personal reasons, and those are artists I avoid.
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Date: 2015-03-08 10:34 pm (UTC)welcoming any sort of critique.
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Date: 2015-03-13 03:31 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-03-08 10:35 pm (UTC)http://www.arikla.com/comtrds.html
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Date: 2015-03-08 11:14 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vpMrfuadnAXSGiuRRiKMMEcGVFWhs1mbBcvdmNhkTMI/edit?usp=sharing
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Date: 2015-03-08 11:20 pm (UTC)I've been using this since last year, but I'd like to know if I'm missing anything or if there's something that seems unfair.
Some of my process stages have changed and I need to review/rewrite some parts, and before getting to it it'd be great to have a little feedback.
Thanks in advance!
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Date: 2015-03-09 12:03 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-03-08 11:39 pm (UTC)edit: it is a combination tos/ prices page. the TOS is at the end.
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Date: 2015-03-08 11:44 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VjevGk78uHOned6mDsbcNTFziDvEvN0mPeTEJEGw2BA/edit?usp=sharing
I was just pondering making a TOS for sketch streams to send to people but wasn't sure what was necessary on it. I also have agree or disagree as a mandatory button on my form here https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1dpJOYFIWyoQQaRVMZeCIH2qw4GtsXR6A0bqVMoMulYE/viewform
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Date: 2015-03-09 12:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-03-09 12:50 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-03-09 01:08 am (UTC)Apart from the loophole/things I've missed, I'm also interested in hearing about its readability; I'm not a native English speaker and I do have a nasty tendency to use syntax from my native language, and make long, run on sentences, which can be confusing.
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Date: 2015-03-09 08:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-03-09 01:20 am (UTC)http://glennoar.xepher.net/portfolio/commission_terms.html
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Date: 2015-03-09 01:26 am (UTC)"The client agrees to grant me temporary permission to illustrate their character/intellectual property. These rights will be revoked upon completion or termination of the transaction."
poking my nose in here
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Date: 2015-03-09 01:23 am (UTC)Open to feedback/critique if necessary. Thanks in advance.
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Date: 2015-03-09 10:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-03-09 01:31 am (UTC)it's pretty simple i guess; i do mostly icons and smaller commissions these days so i've trimmed it down a bit. at some point i ought to make it a google doc too instead of an FA journal. 6n9 i'm open to suggestions!
i have a FAQ too but it's separate from my TOS because i didn't want them to be too wordy, but maybe i'll merge them at some point.
https://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6437466/
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Date: 2015-03-09 03:41 am (UTC)I did try to separate stuff with bullet points so it's more readable/less of a wall of text, but I don't know if that's good enough. So far no one's complained about it, but I worry that if it's too long/wordy, people will skim or not read it. Also that if there is a language barrier, it might not be well understood anyway.
[I do always add a "have you read and do you accept my ToS?" question at the end of the forms I create with a link to the ToS itself. People cannot submit forms to me if they don't check yes.
I also have the disclaimer "If you send payment, you are agreeing to my ToS. Please email me if you need a copy." in my PayPal invoice comment in case I take commissions without accepting forms first.]
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Date: 2015-03-09 05:43 am (UTC)http://lolkami.webs.com/terms.htm
I appreciate it :)
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Date: 2015-03-09 10:06 am (UTC)They have a TOS (as the customer) that says the artist agrees to their TOS if that person commissions them and the TOS states that the artist gives up all the rights of the image to the customer.
Of course in freelance work, any rights not negotiated (and paid) for default to the creator, the artist.
Artists might want to consider adding the following line to their TOS, in case this is a growing trend: "When a client contacts me for work, they agree that my TOS supersedes any TOS the client might have."
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Date: 2015-03-09 04:23 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 2015-03-09 06:38 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/18fya7TIIW94sXCTeg2DQUzJ3n1mun0vXWVQBrbuCets/edit?usp=sharing
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Date: 2015-03-09 08:07 pm (UTC)http://ramdragon.wix.com/ramarts#!terms-of-service/c11ux
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Date: 2015-03-09 10:18 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sBwQOjUvOeEyXyqpHny41T_jThI-rZGGdpDztEg2v7s/edit?usp=sharing
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Date: 2015-03-10 10:11 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-03-10 10:36 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F9cdAOe66rRS4jvP34Kf7IpRLnTJMQIVRYfY4aXv8k8/edit?usp=sharing
I plan to move this to a ~prettier~ platform soon enough.
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Date: 2015-03-11 08:05 pm (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/14OA67OzYL7XL2JqnAPOtIbwgduQsUXs6RXsyHiViEuE/edit
Thanks (:
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Date: 2015-03-11 11:49 pm (UTC)You may only cancel a commission before sending payment.
my thoughts: If I need to cancel the commission I'd like to be able to back out at any time and receive a partial refund. An artist has the right to cancel a transaction at any time, and so should the client.
After the sketch is approved, you may not ask for a refund.
my thoughts: same as above.
Refunds may not be requested otherwise.
my thoughts: same as above.
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Date: 2015-03-13 03:45 am (UTC)https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRdoV9oDyZgTsUM47vEWKrBQ8KdKS3KpYDrWwXS3i8I/edit?usp=sharing
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Date: 2015-03-28 09:08 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-05-08 12:41 am (UTC)http://furredthingsfurst.wix.com/sarahcat-fursuits#!terms-of-service/cjk7
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Date: 2015-05-08 02:19 am (UTC)Do not ask me every single day about your commission. I will not feel obligated to work on it because you WILL annoy me and will rush to get it done.
"Please keep contact/ requests for updates to (x amount) during this transaction. I will do my best to respond to you within (y hours)."
I am a high school student. School work comes first.
Aside from potentially commissioning a minor, this reads as a red flag. I'd remove it entirely. It's generally understood that folks have other things going on. How many times have we heard "my life comes first" when an artist fails to deliver in a timely fashion?
Remember, once you secure a spot your commission is final. Please do not commission me if you feel that you will have a hard time paying for it or will no longer be interested in the item (see below). Remember, a fursuit is a luxury and not a necessity!
"Commissions of this nature can be costly investments. Please consider it carefully before contacting me."
I will not start working on your project until it is mostly or fully paid off.
Define mostly. It's better than a vague thing, as some clients may expect "mostly" to be 60% when you think mostly is 80%.
Lastly, add in an abandonment clause for if a client fails to pay for their suit.
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