[identity profile] atedtbrains9.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Who: Eroishi

Where: http://eroishi.deviantart.com/

What: 2 digital art pieces (1 nsfw and sfw)

When: December 6, 2015 - February 12, 2016

Proof: http://imgur.com/a/wRZi4

Expalin:

I requested 2 pictures, 1 nsfw and 1 sfw pic. Things went smooth until two weeks later, I messaged him about the payment I sent him. He told me that he never received the amount. I got worried and asked how he resolved the situation before since he told me that something similar happened for his patreon account. However, he simply said that the money was never received, leaving me to figured that he didn’t bother to resolve the solution. During the process, I called PayPal and they told me that the he received my payment. I told him to contact PayPal or find a way so that we can chat together, but he refused to comply, only to agree to talk to PayPal.

I messaged him again after 3 days and he didn’t reply.

So I waited. Since he never replied within a month, I could only assume the worst, which was that he’s lying to me and I was scammed. So I called him out for being a scammer, and he said that it was because he “had no internet” and had to wait until early February to get it back. So I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

After two weeks, I asked him to give me a refund, but he refused. I questioned him again about showing me proof, and he had to wait for the internet to return. So I waited two days. During the process, I showed him my screenshot that I have proof of sending him the money. He said that everything is correct, yet he kept telling me that nothing was received. I asked him politely to the best I can to update me on the information he was trying to tell me. He finally showed me his end of the transaction to see that he “didn’t receive the payment”. So I proceeded to calling PayPal again (for the third time) and informed them of the situation. They refused to check and only said that he indeed received the amount I paid him.

I sent him (and it was panic) a few emails to connect on PayPal together to resolve the situation together. Instead, he refused to reply to any of emails. 1 week later had passed, and it came to the drastic solution that he’s not willing to work with me at all. I had to resort to threatening him to contact PayPal immediately on what’s going on. He instead replied, declaring me a liar for the exact same proofs we showed to each other. This confirmed to me that he had scammed me for a simple $36 two picture commission.

Since I had paid with friends by mistake, I’m not able to get my money back. This was a mistake on my end. Also, I feel that I learned not to freak out when a situation like this should ever happen again. And I also believe I shouldn’t be sending multiple messages at once out of panic (which may led to this). I also wondered if it was really on PayPal error if he really didn’t receive the payment I made to him. However, he refused to comply with my suggestion of calling PayPal again.

Date: 2016-03-25 03:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
If paypal says he got it, then he got it. This is such a weird post, and it's definitely warranted.

Date: 2016-03-28 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunstar-private.livejournal.com
I know its been said again and again, but never send payments as friends and family. It's better to lose an artist to do your work and still have your money over them not wanting to accept "Goods and Services" than to spend it and never get it back, in addition to being punished by Paypal.

That in itself is a red flag that they only use Friends. Pay the fee. I've met my share of people who ask for Friends, knowing full well that if they skip out that you won't get your money back. One person intentionally would only accept Friends to "ensure" that she got paid a few years back.

EDIT: Paragraph didn't submit.
Edited Date: 2016-03-28 02:14 am (UTC)

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