The kids are afraid to reference now....

[pseudomanitou.livejournal.com]

Just as the title says -- I have recently been running into a brick wall with people who catch me on AIM and ask me for advice on improving their illustration skills. The immediate problem that I see is that they do not draw from any observations.

They are afraid to look at anything as reference because they believe this would be 'stealing' or cheating to some degree. They mistakenly believe other artists draw strictly from what they can formulate in their minds. They do not understand that observations of such things as fabric and muscle tension in a pose, are essential as either learning tools or needed to work out details in existing compositions.

...I think this is a good place to bring this topic. I am very frustrated with having to tell new artists that they have bad habits to break -- and a fear of reference as a bad habit is a high one on my list.

It all brings a lot of issues to light...

Has the anti-theft mentality created myths of taboos that simply do not exist?

Are the guidelines too unclear for beginning artists to understand? What should we tell newer artists who do not know when they are crossing a line?

What can be done or said to make new artists understand that referencing is a necessary and useful tool? -- Is it a problem with confusion of WHAT KIND of materials they should be referencing? (IE -- look at photos taken by you, not other artist's works).

What other problems exist?

...Hash it out for yourselves.

Comments

[ironbadger.livejournal.com]

This is the same peer pressure crap I ran into on the vcl forum back around '97 or so.
A few skilled and intensely over-territorial young artists began this by ranting that no one should ever use referrence materials because its "not honest" or "stealing", and absolutely refused to hear anything that contradicted this soapbox stance even when it came from professional artists who had been making a living drawing since before even I even born...

I gave up in sheer disgust eventually, and I was under the impression this horseshit attitude had been allowed to die at last.
I am deeply saddened and more than a little shocked that this is still going on, frankly- since copying reference material is a standard learning practice taught in art schools and the like, and any experienced professional will tel you that its a valid tool for learning.

I won't even bother to go into the arguments that the artist who started this went into- they amounted to teenaged high school angst camoflaged as justification, and I got disgusted with it rather quickly when it became apparent that this person was beyond listening to anything that was not sycophantic agreement to her position.

-Badger-

[dustmeat.livejournal.com]

So agreed.

[pseudomanitou.livejournal.com]

Ah, the basic Salon de Paris mentality :)

Well, every art group goes through that once or twice. Sorry you had to be there for it.