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Text: WHO: Sif.
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sif/
WHAT: Adoptable + referencesheet.
WHEN: 03-05-2017 and ongoing.
PROOF: Linked below.
EXPLAIN: On March 5th Sif had uploaded an adoptable of this beautiful dragon girl. The adopt was just a fullbody front view but also had three headshots sketched out and a fullbody view of her back. As shown here. (NSFW) https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9424fkp1nx9z04/1488700798.sif_dragon_girl_adopt.png?dl=0 The Auction said that she would come as is unless Autobought and you could unlock the referencesheet. (I sadly do not have the original image and description saved as she has since not only updated the reference but also edited the description) The Autobuy for the adopt orginally 450 when she first posted but she later dropped it to 400. I bidded on the first day and had a slight bidding war with someone on the next day. After checking her previous adoptable auctions I saw that they usually were autobought and grew nervous as I really wanted her. I didn't have the payment outright so I noted Sif asking if I could put a downpayment of my current bid (170) and send her the rest when I ha
d the payment. She agreed and I sent her my down payment and went on my way. https://gyazo.com/cc786b92ed81990a23c749993a01a95b https://gyazo.com/c61f2f7c07e7c51513860b7d61a2acbc (I didn't screenshot her reply because it's her paypal with a 'Thanks for the help' and I had afterwards sent her a note saying just 'paid' but I can get screenshots if requested.)
On the 13th I sent her a note telling her I had her payment but that I was wondering if I could pay extra to get an additional view of her bent over to show her bits and also asked her about adding a few markings on the parts that weren't drawn yet (like chosing the colour of her tongue and asking if she could have a heart shaped butt marking), She that was fine and that it would be 270 (instead of the 230) I paid and also asked if she could add my personal watermark because of my paranoia of art theft and she said she could as she hates art theft as well. https://gyazo.com/8f980f0d8f4ad9e4f9dd24c2ee92d8fe https://gyazo.com/67215571a8b4888d57cd8d0c920f84bf
On the 15th she has sent me the files and to my surprise it didn't include the full body backview and she didn't colour the tongue the colour I asked. I decided to let the tongue thing slide as it looked fine as is but I messaged her telling her that I was upset about her not having her backview and asked her if she could include it and just take the bent over view off the reference and have it as a 'seperate piece.' She replied telling me that she would but she didn't want to put it seperate and would just do the back view seperate because 'it wouldn't look right' being on there. I asked her why she thought that as I believed it would look better next to it as she had originally advertised.
Image: (NSFW) https://gyazo.com/99c6b3f540b1de92f3ff333cb9c6c1be
Messages: https://gyazo.com/690135c23bddc71482af16a4c303f704
She replied to me telling me "i put too much work on to this picture its not a commission, its an adopt. I will shrink down the back view ." and that she would just refund me 70$. I was upset because not only was I astonished that she responded like that but that she wouldn't have a proper view of her back markings. I told her that I was upset that she responded that way and that I loved her art but I would be writing a beware. She responded seeming upset saying ":C i can draw ya a color sketch of the back view, it will look horrible and not in harmony if i added the back view e.e i was trying to keep it in balance with the ref sheet" and then shortly after sent me a seperate note saying "or i can just add the back view extra... let me do that now" https://gyazo.com/c5af9a3481d9c05e7e2fded9a1e5ec75 https://gyazo.com/62112547ca379ab68a854bc25354aa3e https://gyazo.com/b566322c19009636ca65572e380e76ed
I waited and she responded with the updated piece with the backview. I viewed it from my phone and saw that it was purely just a shot from shoulders to hips but I thought it would be better than nothing and told her it looked lovely. I went back to my pc to save it and saw that it looked extremely sloppy and that was missing a marking on the back of her legs that showed in the bent over view. I noted her about it then looked it over again to notice that the rest of the markings on her hips didn't match either. I messaged her trying to be civil and offered her 40 bucks of the 70 to clean it up and do the markings right as I just wanted it to look right. While I was typing my third note out she replied telling me that "This will be the last attempt. Please refresh..."
Back view: (Slightly NSFW) https://gyazo.com/b7770f3655b518d9fce15c7e8eb5109e
Messages: https://gyazo.com/737a5ac41823d19f85b4c674a41a4fbf https://gyazo.com/61a29f3ccabac28b68cde4c04276ff66
She read my note shortly after I sent it but after a week she hasn't responded and continues to take on more work. I really love this girl and don't want a refund for her. I'm just wanting her to do what I paid her for, or at least the quality since she has given me a partial refund. If she would do the entire view I would send her the partial payment back but currently I'm just very astounded by her behavior as I've worked with her before and never had any issues.
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sif/
WHAT: Adoptable + referencesheet.
WHEN: 03-05-2017 and ongoing.
PROOF: Linked below.
EXPLAIN: On March 5th Sif had uploaded an adoptable of this beautiful dragon girl. The adopt was just a fullbody front view but also had three headshots sketched out and a fullbody view of her back. As shown here. (NSFW) https://www.dropbox.com/s/o9424fkp1nx9z04/1488700798.sif_dragon_girl_adopt.png?dl=0 The Auction said that she would come as is unless Autobought and you could unlock the referencesheet. (I sadly do not have the original image and description saved as she has since not only updated the reference but also edited the description) The Autobuy for the adopt orginally 450 when she first posted but she later dropped it to 400. I bidded on the first day and had a slight bidding war with someone on the next day. After checking her previous adoptable auctions I saw that they usually were autobought and grew nervous as I really wanted her. I didn't have the payment outright so I noted Sif asking if I could put a downpayment of my current bid (170) and send her the rest when I ha
d the payment. She agreed and I sent her my down payment and went on my way. https://gyazo.com/cc786b92ed81990a23c749993a01a95b https://gyazo.com/c61f2f7c07e7c51513860b7d61a2acbc (I didn't screenshot her reply because it's her paypal with a 'Thanks for the help' and I had afterwards sent her a note saying just 'paid' but I can get screenshots if requested.)
On the 13th I sent her a note telling her I had her payment but that I was wondering if I could pay extra to get an additional view of her bent over to show her bits and also asked her about adding a few markings on the parts that weren't drawn yet (like chosing the colour of her tongue and asking if she could have a heart shaped butt marking), She that was fine and that it would be 270 (instead of the 230) I paid and also asked if she could add my personal watermark because of my paranoia of art theft and she said she could as she hates art theft as well. https://gyazo.com/8f980f0d8f4ad9e4f9dd24c2ee92d8fe https://gyazo.com/67215571a8b4888d57cd8d0c920f84bf
On the 15th she has sent me the files and to my surprise it didn't include the full body backview and she didn't colour the tongue the colour I asked. I decided to let the tongue thing slide as it looked fine as is but I messaged her telling her that I was upset about her not having her backview and asked her if she could include it and just take the bent over view off the reference and have it as a 'seperate piece.' She replied telling me that she would but she didn't want to put it seperate and would just do the back view seperate because 'it wouldn't look right' being on there. I asked her why she thought that as I believed it would look better next to it as she had originally advertised.
Image: (NSFW) https://gyazo.com/99c6b3f540b1de92f3ff333cb9c6c1be
Messages: https://gyazo.com/690135c23bddc71482af16a4c303f704
She replied to me telling me "i put too much work on to this picture its not a commission, its an adopt. I will shrink down the back view ." and that she would just refund me 70$. I was upset because not only was I astonished that she responded like that but that she wouldn't have a proper view of her back markings. I told her that I was upset that she responded that way and that I loved her art but I would be writing a beware. She responded seeming upset saying ":C i can draw ya a color sketch of the back view, it will look horrible and not in harmony if i added the back view e.e i was trying to keep it in balance with the ref sheet" and then shortly after sent me a seperate note saying "or i can just add the back view extra... let me do that now" https://gyazo.com/c5af9a3481d9c05e7e2fded9a1e5ec75 https://gyazo.com/62112547ca379ab68a854bc25354aa3e https://gyazo.com/b566322c19009636ca65572e380e76ed
I waited and she responded with the updated piece with the backview. I viewed it from my phone and saw that it was purely just a shot from shoulders to hips but I thought it would be better than nothing and told her it looked lovely. I went back to my pc to save it and saw that it looked extremely sloppy and that was missing a marking on the back of her legs that showed in the bent over view. I noted her about it then looked it over again to notice that the rest of the markings on her hips didn't match either. I messaged her trying to be civil and offered her 40 bucks of the 70 to clean it up and do the markings right as I just wanted it to look right. While I was typing my third note out she replied telling me that "This will be the last attempt. Please refresh..."
Back view: (Slightly NSFW) https://gyazo.com/b7770f3655b518d9fce15c7e8eb5109e
Messages: https://gyazo.com/737a5ac41823d19f85b4c674a41a4fbf https://gyazo.com/61a29f3ccabac28b68cde4c04276ff66
She read my note shortly after I sent it but after a week she hasn't responded and continues to take on more work. I really love this girl and don't want a refund for her. I'm just wanting her to do what I paid her for, or at least the quality since she has given me a partial refund. If she would do the entire view I would send her the partial payment back but currently I'm just very astounded by her behavior as I've worked with her before and never had any issues.
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Date: 2017-03-27 11:22 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-27 11:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-27 11:30 pm (UTC)When I open the submission image in a new tab, it gives me a different URL than the one OP posted, I get this link http://d.facdn.net/art/sif/1489561613/1488700798.sif_dragon_girl_adopt.png
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Date: 2017-03-27 11:31 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)Here's the colored pic (since the original uncolored one got deleted): http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13672908/ (somewhat NSFW)
With that poor attitude she gave you, I don't feel comfortable about commissioning her again, let alone buy an adoptable from her.
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Date: 2017-03-27 11:40 pm (UTC)Has there been any development on this, Raven? I don't get why this was such a hard problem. For that price tag surely it's no big deal to go in and do what you paid for correctly. The corrections on the markings shouldn't take that long to do.
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Date: 2017-03-28 03:21 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-03-27 11:49 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2017-03-28 04:42 am (UTC)I'm sorry that this is so convoluted for you.
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Date: 2017-03-28 07:16 am (UTC)Her reasoning for not adding the back view being "it wouldn't look right" is illogical. A back view is essential on a character ref. The one that doesn't look right is the actual bent over image LOL
If she didn't want all this trouble over an adopt, she should have just done the shit to begin with and then drawn the additional image on a separate sheet. She says it's not a commission but she took additional money for additional work and therefor it becomes a commission. ffs.
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Date: 2017-03-28 02:00 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-28 09:26 pm (UTC)The quality of the close up is pretty bad (sloppy lines / strokes / color fill, missing markings) but that's something I've noticed throughout her gallery. Why offer alternate views for an extra fee if you're going to resent the work, though?? Either accept that it turns into a commission at that point or just sell adopts 'as seen' without any extra work. x_x
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Date: 2017-03-28 10:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-28 10:33 am (UTC)The way she acted about it was not great either.
Considering unwatching her but I'll wait a bit to see if this get resolved.
On the back view the only thing I can think of is they misunderstood? And thought you wanted to replace the back view? Even though that does not make any sense since you need a back view for a ref...
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Date: 2017-03-28 02:28 pm (UTC)I hope it gets resolved as well as I love her art but yeah. ^^"
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Date: 2017-04-01 11:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2017-03-29 09:02 am (UTC)Sorry you had to deal with all that over something so simple :C
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Date: 2017-03-29 06:20 pm (UTC)mod comment
Date: 2017-03-31 02:20 am (UTC)You can go ahead and repost this if you have a NSFW warning on it. This will be screened, but Raven and the mods can still see it. Please don't delete your comment.
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Date: 2017-03-31 08:16 pm (UTC)no subject
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