Seeking advice

[crazeetyger.livejournal.com]

I was recently in an art trade with someone who was going to write a story in exchange for me doing art. He finished his story first and as I read it, I saw that the character names he had chosen, Reiko and Janden, were often replaced with Greta and Horace. I questioned him about it, and he admitted that he had pasted together a mish mash of previous stories he had written for his half of the trade.

I spoke with a friend about this who said I should post here. But that I should finish my half of the trade despite this, so I would "come out smelling like a rose." I don't feel I should be obligated to do this as he didn't actually write a new story.

I am unsure of what to do at this point. Any helpful advice would be much appreciated.

Seeking advice

[crazeetyger.livejournal.com]

I was recently in an art trade with someone who was going to write a story in exchange for me doing art. He finished his story first and as I read it, I saw that the character names he had chosen, Reiko and Janden, were often replaced with Greta and Horace. I questioned him about it, and he admitted that he had pasted together a mish mash of previous stories he had written for his half of the trade.

I spoke with a friend about this who said I should post here. But that I should finish my half of the trade despite this, so I would "come out smelling like a rose." I don't feel I should be obligated to do this as he didn't actually write a new story.

I am unsure of what to do at this point. Any helpful advice would be much appreciated.

Seeking advice

[crazeetyger.livejournal.com]

I was recently in an art trade with someone who was going to write a story in exchange for me doing art. He finished his story first and as I read it, I saw that the character names he had chosen, Reiko and Janden, were often replaced with Greta and Horace. I questioned him about it, and he admitted that he had pasted together a mish mash of previous stories he had written for his half of the trade.

I spoke with a friend about this who said I should post here. But that I should finish my half of the trade despite this, so I would "come out smelling like a rose." I don't feel I should be obligated to do this as he didn't actually write a new story.

I am unsure of what to do at this point. Any helpful advice would be much appreciated.

Trade Advice?

[starrywolfpaws.livejournal.com]

Hey, just asking for advice here.
I've done a few art trades over the years. I collect MLP and I am involved in a MLP collecting forum and was thinking at some point in the near future of offering art in exchange for ponies.

I'm just wondering what is the usual way to do these? Does it tend to be art first then whatever is being sent?

Trade Advice?

[starrywolfpaws.livejournal.com]

Hey, just asking for advice here.
I've done a few art trades over the years. I collect MLP and I am involved in a MLP collecting forum and was thinking at some point in the near future of offering art in exchange for ponies.

I'm just wondering what is the usual way to do these? Does it tend to be art first then whatever is being sent?

Trade Advice?

[starrypawz.livejournal.com]

Hey, just asking for advice here.
I've done a few art trades over the years. I collect MLP and I am involved in a MLP collecting forum and was thinking at some point in the near future of offering art in exchange for ponies.

I'm just wondering what is the usual way to do these? Does it tend to be art first then whatever is being sent?

Beware: Vella C. Raptor

[jagagreyfox.livejournal.com]

WHO: Vella C. Raptor on Furaffinity

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vellacraptor
and Email

WHAT: Very old digital art commission from October 2011.

WHEN: Paid in October 2011

PROOF: Her art que that I have been at the top of sense October, NO progress on my image sense then: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AjIe-vKisy0idEpuUjhpczFBakVnUWkzRjY4T19kWnc&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Our original agreement that was NEVER started so I ended up changing it with her full permission shown in the screen shot after this one:  http://tinypic.com/r/296knwi/5

Here is my commission change where she tried to charge me more after agreeing CLEARLY in the screen shot above to color the image how I had my previous commission done: http://tinypic.com/r/16ibuw/5

Our talk after I responded to her trying to change what she had promised: http://tinypic.com/r/14bqhhy/5

at this point im super annoyed.

The due date she promised to me: http://tinypic.com/r/25a2lo1/5

her excuse last month promising the commission before Jan was over. How could mine not get done when she posted random art and other commissions almost every other day? (view her gallery for more dates): http://tinypic.com/r/aka5np/5

message I sent her a week ago never opened when I see she leaves comments on others daily so I have been ignored: http://tinypic.com/r/mbidsj/5

So i decided to email her, it took a week as well to get the email response. And it was not a very nice response either. She talked to me as If she would be doing me a favor putting my art with her Christmas art...when my commission was supposed to be a gift in OCTOBER that I told her about multiple times, and she continues to ignore that acting like its a HUGE favor to allow my commission to go with over due Christmas art. She also previously gave me multiple due dates and such as listed above, NO progress images were ever given. Personal art and other art continues, but my art once again was the piece that magically vanished with her computer issue story.

http://tinypic.com/r/ka0lrb/5


VERY annoyed customer.


EXPLAIN: I asked her multiple times about it and she never responds, got two responses, one trying to charge me more money for what I already paid for going against our agreed price She told me that she did not agree to it, when I proved the message to her she simply said oh ok and let it at that. Have not heard from her at all, trying to get a hold of her. I paid her 6$ up front and was planning on giving her 15 more after the art was done, but at this point im not sure its even worth it. She has done other commissions over mine over and over again. No progress on mine. I am annoyed especially because i was her original first commission on FA and she was great for it, and she has treated me very poorly as a repeat customer.

Beware: Vella C. Raptor

[jagagreyfox.livejournal.com]

WHO: Vella C. Raptor on Furaffinity

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vellacraptor
and Email

WHAT: Very old digital art commission from October 2011.

WHEN: Paid in October 2011

PROOF: Her art que that I have been at the top of sense October, NO progress on my image sense then: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AjIe-vKisy0idEpuUjhpczFBakVnUWkzRjY4T19kWnc&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Our original agreement that was NEVER started so I ended up changing it with her full permission shown in the screen shot after this one:  http://tinypic.com/r/296knwi/5

Here is my commission change where she tried to charge me more after agreeing CLEARLY in the screen shot above to color the image how I had my previous commission done: http://tinypic.com/r/16ibuw/5

Our talk after I responded to her trying to change what she had promised: http://tinypic.com/r/14bqhhy/5

at this point im super annoyed.

The due date she promised to me: http://tinypic.com/r/25a2lo1/5

her excuse last month promising the commission before Jan was over. How could mine not get done when she posted random art and other commissions almost every other day? (view her gallery for more dates): http://tinypic.com/r/aka5np/5

message I sent her a week ago never opened when I see she leaves comments on others daily so I have been ignored: http://tinypic.com/r/mbidsj/5

So i decided to email her, it took a week as well to get the email response. And it was not a very nice response either. She talked to me as If she would be doing me a favor putting my art with her Christmas art...when my commission was supposed to be a gift in OCTOBER that I told her about multiple times, and she continues to ignore that acting like its a HUGE favor to allow my commission to go with over due Christmas art. She also previously gave me multiple due dates and such as listed above, NO progress images were ever given. Personal art and other art continues, but my art once again was the piece that magically vanished with her computer issue story.

http://tinypic.com/r/ka0lrb/5


VERY annoyed customer.


EXPLAIN: I asked her multiple times about it and she never responds, got two responses, one trying to charge me more money for what I already paid for going against our agreed price She told me that she did not agree to it, when I proved the message to her she simply said oh ok and let it at that. Have not heard from her at all, trying to get a hold of her. I paid her 6$ up front and was planning on giving her 15 more after the art was done, but at this point im not sure its even worth it. She has done other commissions over mine over and over again. No progress on mine. I am annoyed especially because i was her original first commission on FA and she was great for it, and she has treated me very poorly as a repeat customer.

Beware: Vella C. Raptor

[jagagreyfox.livejournal.com]

WHO: Vella C. Raptor on Furaffinity

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/vellacraptor
and Email

WHAT: Very old digital art commission from October 2011.

WHEN: Paid in October 2011

PROOF: Her art que that I have been at the top of sense October, NO progress on my image sense then: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AjIe-vKisy0idEpuUjhpczFBakVnUWkzRjY4T19kWnc&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Our original agreement that was NEVER started so I ended up changing it with her full permission shown in the screen shot after this one:  http://tinypic.com/r/296knwi/5

Here is my commission change where she tried to charge me more after agreeing CLEARLY in the screen shot above to color the image how I had my previous commission done: http://tinypic.com/r/16ibuw/5

Our talk after I responded to her trying to change what she had promised: http://tinypic.com/r/14bqhhy/5

at this point im super annoyed.

The due date she promised to me: http://tinypic.com/r/25a2lo1/5

her excuse last month promising the commission before Jan was over. How could mine not get done when she posted random art and other commissions almost every other day? (view her gallery for more dates): http://tinypic.com/r/aka5np/5

message I sent her a week ago never opened when I see she leaves comments on others daily so I have been ignored: http://tinypic.com/r/mbidsj/5

So i decided to email her, it took a week as well to get the email response. And it was not a very nice response either. She talked to me as If she would be doing me a favor putting my art with her Christmas art...when my commission was supposed to be a gift in OCTOBER that I told her about multiple times, and she continues to ignore that acting like its a HUGE favor to allow my commission to go with over due Christmas art. She also previously gave me multiple due dates and such as listed above, NO progress images were ever given. Personal art and other art continues, but my art once again was the piece that magically vanished with her computer issue story.

http://tinypic.com/r/ka0lrb/5


VERY annoyed customer.


EXPLAIN: I asked her multiple times about it and she never responds, got two responses, one trying to charge me more money for what I already paid for going against our agreed price She told me that she did not agree to it, when I proved the message to her she simply said oh ok and let it at that. Have not heard from her at all, trying to get a hold of her. I paid her 6$ up front and was planning on giving her 15 more after the art was done, but at this point im not sure its even worth it. She has done other commissions over mine over and over again. No progress on mine. I am annoyed especially because i was her original first commission on FA and she was great for it, and she has treated me very poorly as a repeat customer.

Signing contracts

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

I know most artists don't handle formal contracts for commissions, and for non-commercial work, I do tend to feel that a good ToS is sufficient. For commercial projects though, or private commissions involving larger sums of money, I would feel a lot better with a signed contract with specific details pertaining to the project at hand. But signing contracts with people all over the country and internationally can be difficult when 1) no one uses fax machines anymore, and 2) not very many people know how to utilize Adobe Acrobat's digital signing capabilities.

Is there a better way to deal with it other than mailing out two copies of a signed physical contract, having the client sign them, and then having them one mail it back? Or having the client print, sign, and scan the contract? The former has a long wait time and a lot of hassle, especially if the project happens to be on a deadline. The latter requires the client have a scanner.

Thanks for any insight. :O

Signing contracts

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

I know most artists don't handle formal contracts for commissions, and for non-commercial work, I do tend to feel that a good ToS is sufficient. For commercial projects though, or private commissions involving larger sums of money, I would feel a lot better with a signed contract with specific details pertaining to the project at hand. But signing contracts with people all over the country and internationally can be difficult when 1) no one uses fax machines anymore, and 2) not very many people know how to utilize Adobe Acrobat's digital signing capabilities.

Is there a better way to deal with it other than mailing out two copies of a signed physical contract, having the client sign them, and then having them one mail it back? Or having the client print, sign, and scan the contract? The former has a long wait time and a lot of hassle, especially if the project happens to be on a deadline. The latter requires the client have a scanner.

Thanks for any insight. :O

Signing contracts

[kiriska.livejournal.com]

I know most artists don't handle formal contracts for commissions, and for non-commercial work, I do tend to feel that a good ToS is sufficient. For commercial projects though, or private commissions involving larger sums of money, I would feel a lot better with a signed contract with specific details pertaining to the project at hand. But signing contracts with people all over the country and internationally can be difficult when 1) no one uses fax machines anymore, and 2) not very many people know how to utilize Adobe Acrobat's digital signing capabilities.

Is there a better way to deal with it other than mailing out two copies of a signed physical contract, having the client sign them, and then having them one mail it back? Or having the client print, sign, and scan the contract? The former has a long wait time and a lot of hassle, especially if the project happens to be on a deadline. The latter requires the client have a scanner.

Thanks for any insight. :O