FA Artist heads up

[cerari.livejournal.com]

First time posting here, but after stumbling onto this user's journal I thought a heads up to this community might not be a bad idea.

User is JinDragonWolf (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jindragowolf/) - they posted a journal about how they may cancel their current commissions since they have been taking so long and "not feeling up to them", and then start over with higher prices to get a Wacom. Oh, and they can't afford to give refunds at this time either.

Journal : http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1357331/

Screencap of the journal under the cut :





If I made any errors in posting this, please let me know! I checked the community info and don't think I broke any rules...

Comments

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Eh, when I say slack I'm not even saying in comparison to a pro artist.

Artists, especially popular ones, are put on a bit of a pedestal in the furry community. People will continiously forgive them for things they really shouldn't. We have so many cases on this community of people waiting patiently years for simple art, for example.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

This is true. The big problem I have with that, whether I sound mean right now or not, I don't care, is that they aren't even good. Most of these furry artists can draw one subject well because they have done it over and over and over again, but will fail at most anything else. They have no idea of the foundation of what they are drawing, just the shape of that one thing they do well.

But they do one thing passingly, get a niche, and people dig their nails in. It's alot of "pr" too...

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

I should also add- If you are going to do art for money, you damn well better start considering yourself a pro (not directed at you mind you, just in general). After all, you become a professional at something the moment money changes hands, and if you are not going to complete work, or put it off so long because you have a "day job" or "it's a hobby", then don't be taking money for it at all.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Here's the thing with art, and with most products in my view: It's only worth what someone will pay for it. Therefore, form and foundation really don't mean anything. If someone wants it, it's worth what they'll pay for it. If someone is interested in improvement to benefit themselves, it's all well and good for personal enrichment, but for me it's hard to fault someone for turning out something that sells.

And yes, even though commission work is a hobby for me, I certainly aim for professionalism at the very least in my business practices. It's what brings repeat customers, for one thing.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

It's more of a slap in the face, though, to those of us who work so hard to improve our skill, and get passed up for someone who can't draw for shit, but just so happens to be able to draw dicks big and 'well'. I simply don't think it should be supported, because whether you want to believe it or not, furry art is techinchally an industry. There's a local animation studio that got a lot of flack for basically the same thing- causing damage to the industry as a whole by having lower expectations and being cheaper, rather than having some pride and professionallism in their work. Granted, that's not to say that all the animators working there were crap- I know many, and they are very skilled, but the overall quality became slack due to this whole thing.

Yeah, I have always felt the same way, and now am going into it professionally, as an animator. It really bothers me to see the aformentioned situation, however.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, art is subjective. It's not like, say, shoddy repair work where the buyer ends up finding out LATER they were ripped off. They see what they're getting, and are buying it because they like what they see. Often folks buying the work haven't any artistic leanings themselves, hence they can't really notice things like poor anatomy or perspective -- so to them it doesn't really matter. You can't control what people like. Telling them that one person's art was made with better skill does not change which aesthetic they prefer.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

Except it isn't subjective at the bare bones. It's like lipstick on a dead pig, as a classmate of mine says.

Can I personally go to furry cons and punch every single person in the face who makes a living (LITERALLY) off of horribly done work, without even WANTING to improve (god forbid someone critiques!)

I joke, of course, but ugh.

[pandemic-panic.livejournal.com]

Please, be my guest.

[lastres0rt.livejournal.com]

... +1 Icon.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

... oh god your avatar. JEE WAS THAT EXACTLY WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT NO IT CANT POSSIBLY BE. /sob

[merlin-the-wise.livejournal.com]

that icon is as incredible as it hilarious

[thedancingemu.livejournal.com]

Oh god, your icon XD

Who's artwork is that? It looks familiar.

[thedancingemu.livejournal.com]

Nevermind, says so in your userpics, I'm an idiot XP

[pkbitchgirl.livejournal.com]

What animation studio is this?

[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

Kurenai is permabanned, she won't be able to reply to you here, you should PM her instead.

[pkbitchgirl.livejournal.com]

Whoa, what did she do to get banned?

[kayla-la.livejournal.com]

It's a loooong story, and I don't really feel right airing her dirty laundry. Let's just say she had a history of breaking the rules, and then had a major meltdown in the comm and intentionally did something after being told not to, and it was just the last straw. It was a pretty big dramabomb here in AB at the time.