Jace

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

Jace after a year and a month still has nothing to show for the 300$ i paid him...I emailed him about every two weeks for status updates each time i got a new excuse....not even the courtesy to be told he didn't feel like it...just new out of random excuses....till i lost my net for like three months then he told me he didn'tdo anything cause i hadn't been in contact with him .....so then i continued the two week email thingy....the last month he hasn't emailed me back.....and i'm annoyed....because before when FA was up I user noted him about all this and i got "If I could send you your money back I would." So it looks like i'm dead in the water...Thankyou Jace you've been a tremendous help....

Comments

[pinkpuppybelly.livejournal.com]

Holy shit, $300? That's a lot of bones.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

yeah taht was back when i worked for the washington blade....

[cortezopossum.livejournal.com]

What the hell is this "If I could send you your money back I would" crap -- if he's not going to deliver then he should find a way to send it back otherwise you should take him to Judge Judy. If someone's going to accept commissions -- especially on the order of $300 they'd BETTER be able to do the commission or return the money -- otherwise that's just plain robbery.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

I know but I'm too timid in all reality to do anything but be pissed off...

[auroralockwood.livejournal.com]

I've had the same problem with him. A friend of his did a trade with him for a full color drawing of my main character as a gift for my birthday, it's been close to two years ago now, my birthday is August 19th... and this is a FRIEND. Now, he was too nice to ask Jace how it was coming, but I kept asking... Since then I've gotten plenty of my own very satisfactory and faster commissions so I just told Jace to draw the friend instead, who I thought he'd enjoy drawing. He told my friend that he did a sketch, he just hadn't scanned it yet. Still nothing. I don't think there will ever be anything.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

yeah I havn't seen anything at all from Jace...I'm displeased but theres little I can't do from the other side of the country except bring it into more light and hopefully that'll get him to do soemthing....

More Jace Probs

[acexcat.livejournal.com]

Seems he's in the red for a couple of things. A friend of mine posted about him taking forever and a half and refusing to communicate.... that was the gist of his message; he felt compelled to remove it since the point was lost to some "sometimes it takes long" bantering.
....yes, sometimes it takes a while, but a year and some without contact is too much. Not responding to multiple emails and even refusing to say anything after contact thru other people... well... you've been warned.

Anyhow... not $300, but still, lots of cash; bought prints and a commission and has seen nor heard from since.

Re: More Jace Probs

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

It's crappy but what can I do? Damn you interweb! Your a fickle mistress!....BTW now that I have your emails again i'mma redraw the thingy i drew for you like way back in 2001....I have no idea what name I was under before as I was doing identity crisis but i'mma do something since I only have one more comission of my own to do....

Blech

[palshife-sakura.livejournal.com]

Jace is one of those furs that's a really nice fella, but I've heard much of his bad business practices myself. One friend of mine had been waiting a full year for something he ordered, with nothing.

Re: Blech

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

yeah a year here too....all I keep getting is excuses....when he's willing to talk and umm....he hasn't talked for a month which annoys me greatly...

[ratbat.livejournal.com]

300$? shit.. how come noboudy pays ME that kind of money?!

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

I would gladly have given you 300$ instead of Jace but I reallly didn't know you back then....

[mythos-amante.livejournal.com]

They would give it to you if you charged it, Ratbat! They WOULD

Personal experiences with Jace...

[ionotter.livejournal.com]

In person, Jace is a real sweety. Seriously! I liked him before my problems and still do...like him as a person, that is.

As a business person, he has all the business sense of a salted slug.

I commissioned him for $80 back in 2003, and the money mysteriously disappeared. After considerable angst on his part, he agreed to do the commission as a professional courtesy, but he didn't want to do what I'd originally asked for because of the "emotional distress" attached to it.

I saw him at FC2005, and he asked if I was going to send him an email about what I wanted, but to be honest, I haven't been too particularly inspired. If anything, I'd like to have my disappeared money back in my wallet.

And I'm not the only person this has happened to. technocollie has an outstanding commission of $450 (a *very* large pic) with him that has gone unfinished for at least 5 years that I'm aware of. I've bugged them repeatedly to get on Jace about it, and he reports that he's been stonewalled every time.

Yet another friend of mine had issues with another substantial sum of money, but it was finally resolved after a tremendous amount of drama that ended up drawing in a lot of people. I got the impression that Jace finally did the commission to get them off his back.

Now, here's the thing...if you're at the same con with him and confront him about the issue, he's very accommodating and will cut you some REALLY sweet deals on what he's got with him at the con. Seriously! A close friend of mine walked away *VERY* satisfied with the offered "restitutions", but it still doesn't change the fact that they didn't walk away with what they originally wanted.

That being said, if you're going to commission him, here's some rules to help you along:

1. Make it a soft vore pic, preferably one in which he's the victim.
2. Make it a pic of a scene in which he was a part of.
3. Being a fellow vore artist is a very big plus, especially if you're doing vore trades.

Don't bother with things like receipts, canceled checks or other forms of proven payment to try and scare him into producing, he'll only plead some new disaster. Unless you intend to take him to court over it, but if that's the case, then maybe you shouldn't be commissioning him in the first place...

I say this because no matter how much crap is going on in his life, his VCL account keeps getting new stuff (usually vore) and his "activity timer" on the mucks shows him banging away at the keyboard-not just logged in and idling while slaving over his easel-for at least 3, sometimes up to 10 hours a day.

Jace's "disasters" never cut into his relaxation, just his work.

Maybe if enough people know about this and stop commissioning him, his work ethic will improve, because he really *is* an EXCELLENT artist and he loves to teach others how to improve their work. His tutorials are top-notch, and his subject matter is *very* nice.

But like I said, his work ethic is non-existent.

Re: Personal experiences with Jace...

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

Friggen eh.......dammit what am I supposed to do? It's rediculous to know all this now as opposed to a year ago when I had money to comission him....maybe you could get something outta him? I don't know but seriously I'm even suggesting he give money to ratbat in any amounts till she gets the full 300....i'd rather comission somoene with standards then someone like jace....cause what he did is stealing....I hear how nice he is up front but I'm a whole country away and I don't see this as exactly fair....

Re: Personal experiences with Jace...

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

I'm serious about giving the money to ratbat...she needs it more....also since now i'm near poor I would be half tempted to go to court....300 is like two or three months food for me if not more.