Beware Isabella Price

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

http://www.furaffinity.net/user/isabellaprice/

UPDATE 2/21/11: Some of these photos are a tad blurry, so I'll upload better shots later, but you all can see what I'm talking about for now.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284527216677682

Here in this photo I wanted to show the seam line. Its pretty clear is not balaclava, but some random material (looks like a t shirt) sewn together

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284528272206066

Just wanted to show the cut work she did for the eyes. The way the material is cut makes mt think tshirt but also if it were a balaclava, shouldn't it have eyes already?

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284529474124754

This is a bad pic. I'll upload another later, but this is one of the cheeks coming off. Just starting too.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284533760040882

Here's the other cheek. Its well on its way to falling off.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284535281993378

Sorry. this picture is kinda bad too. This is the back of the muzzle, where the wear's nose should be. If you can see, notice how it is flat which would prevent breathing.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284778321040386

This ear is coming off a bit.


https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284786170632498

This ear is almost off completely.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5576284787454582562

Upon inspection I realize this artist used very little glue on this head and it is coming off the material. In this shot you can
also see the fabric better. Looks like a tshirt

but this is ok, I'm just gonna rip it off the material and make this a foam base instead. So in reality all I really paid for was a bunch of foam pieces cause the foam isn't even staying on the "balaclava" material like its supposed to.


Again, bad service, poor with deadlines, horrid friend attack friend, and now poor craftsmanship.

Don't do business here. You may get more trouble than you wish for.

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UPDATE 2/21/11: I received the head in the mail. I think I would've been more happy with it if I had just gotten it on time. Trying to stay calm and be less critical I was just wondering if balaclava, is that stretchy face mask type thing that goes over your head, cause what ever this is, it's not as described. Its looks like the artist took 2 pieces of an old tshirt and sewed it together and put foam on it. It wasn't even a stretchy tshirt so its hard to put it on.

After asking various friends to try it on, the one person who could get their head inside the base said it lays against their nose preventing her from breathing. She had to breathe through her mouth.  The head is, not up to par. It could have been better. Its kinda poorly constructed in the sense that it has very little glue holding it together. The ears are coming off somewhat and one of the cheeks is halfway off already.

Its definitely not worth $70 but at this point, I've lost so much time it will have to do. Luckily I can fix it myself, but I would have been better off building it myself or paying $30 extra to get a base from Avsun.

I suggest you really consider before buying or doing business with this artist. She can't keep a deadline and will try to justify it to you basically telling you you should accept it, she's not all that honest at times, and she has a rather off-putting friend who you do not want  to cross paths with.

She's a good person, just not a good business person and may need to look into other line of work.
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UPDATE 2/20/11 I'm not sure how to deal with this? Is this right?
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575940026012072258
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UPDATE 2/20/11: As promised I would like to commend Count Ramsley for getting the pictures I wanted to see.
I got a note from him on my FA showing me proof that Isabella did indeed send my head as of February 16th 2011
though it was one day before my due date I am happy that I shall (hopefully) be getting it.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575925384026685986

I'd like to apologize to Isabella and Ramsley for my at times brash behavior. I'm mad, he's mad, everybody's mad and it just doesn't add up to anything good.  Its usually not like myself and I am happy with the way things seem to be turning out.

As promised I'd like to announce this issue as somewhat resolved and if I do not get my item it is a matter of the post office, not Isabella. If that were to happen we are in agreement that I shall get at least a partial refund.

I will also be dropping my claims against Ramsley and Isabella.

Thanks everyone for the support and I hope we all can move past this.

I will be updating on whether or not I got the head.

From this point on this all is yesterday and we're here today. Let us move on.
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UPDATE 2/20/11: After everyone calmed down here is the conversation that took place. Granted there are a few jabs here and there but for the most part it was kinda civil

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575891833662973890

So I am now hopeful that things will work out. I hope we all can move past this.

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I've just about had it with this mess. I knew I was being bullshitted from the get go
but I wanted to be nice about it ya know?

On January 28th I won her auction on a foam base head, which in her auction it
states that she would send the product 2 days after receiving payment.
Its now 22 days later and still no head. I even paid the same day I won the auction.

I was dumb enough to send my $70 payment as a gift so now I cannot dispute it on
paypal. But hopefully linking them here with all my caps and proof they can see
the sham taking place.


https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575591950771016450
Here is the auction I won. I highlighted some areas for Paypal so they can see that
my $70 transaction I sent as a gift was indeed used to pay for this item.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575592198071858610
Here is a cap proving that this is the email she wanted me to send money to. Again
this is more for paypal since I am linking them here. Notice how on the 28th she says
she'll send the item out 2 days after the auction but yet on the 2nd (5 days later)
she says she'll send it out Thursday (6 days after the auction)

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575591954863520914
proof I sent payment.

So I got a bot antsy and tried to communicate her about my item
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575591952384988226

No response, and I found out she was on the beware before.. but she finally responds!!
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575592192824700130

But when contacted again she goes back to not responding.
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575591954331408738


Peeved I go to do my own research on her and I found some rather discouraging signs of trouble
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575592199729919810

On her auction page, her emails are not verified. But I remembered something about those
emails that were more disturbing. I took on of those emails and tried to send money to it.

https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575591955413851522

Look! You can't send money to that email! This is more for Paypal when they read this.
Looks like she may be evading a block or something.

And lastly not to sound rude but on her page it looks like someone else is having the same problem
https://picasaweb.google.com/100534089975315432388/IsabellaPriceBeware?authkey=Gv1sRgCJnRg46U3azfkAE#5575601309979727714
(look at the last comment)

After dealing with her for this long I was told I'd receive my head by my birthday (the 17th)
and its still not here. I'm just about fed up at this point and I have asked this artist for refunds
multiple times in my paypal dispute against her and in my emails. I even asked her kindly
for pictures of the reciept/ reciept shipping lable so I can have proof that she sent it
cause this could very well be the Post office's fault.

Well her scanner is at her grandmothers house with no internet as well as her camera
and it will take a few days to get the pics. So I ask her Does she have a phone? Does it
ahve a came to take pics? She says sure and to text her.

I surely did. I sent texts that got no response. Then I finally sent a text asking if I even had the right number
and the response I get:

"Yes this is right. I am sleeping at the moment."


Um.....wtf?

So I text her back somewhat brash and still kind stating that this is $70 of my hard earned money
we're dealing with and March (FWA) is fast approaching. When will she give me pics.

The response I get:

"I will be up in the next hour or so"


........fed up. Done. Filing claim now.

DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS PERSON. EVER,

I understand life is tough..I understand not having a car....but..all she had to do was
call the PO schedule a pick up and they could have came to the door to get my package.

I hate doing this but I have no choice.

Comments

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Hello! I approved this, but it may be a good idea to put the majority of the post under a cut as it's a bit long. Thanks. :)

[goosestep-lion.livejournal.com]

I didn't read through all of this yet.. I just wanted to give you a fast warning that Paypal will likely ban your account and WILL NOT help you get your money back. You are NEVER to send money as a gift unless it is one! Having sent it as a gift when it was a payment counts and fraud, as you are denying them their cut of the payment when you send the money as a gift and this is against the rules.

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

That was an accident on my part, I hope they here me out first.
I'm so used to sending it as one I didn't think.

Just my luck

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

Oops! I'm sorry..I'm live journal illiterate..how do I do that?

[clockmagic.livejournal.com]

TEXTGOESHERE

[clockmagic.livejournal.com]

lol didn't post.

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

I'm quite confused

[n4nuk4.livejournal.com]

[lj-cut text="if you want to name the cut"] blahblah [/lj-cut]

Just < instead of [ etc.

[msmanuscript.livejournal.com]

<*lj-cut text="YOUR TEXT HERE"> The full post <*/*lj-cut>

Just remove the stars.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

How do I LJ-Cut? (http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=75&q=cut)

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

Ok, I know I'm not that stupid
but I've been here for several minutes trying to
cut this.

So it's Text I want cut here

I even did the rich text directions of highlighting
and clicking the button...

[goosestep-lion.livejournal.com]

I wish you the best of luck.. but I will tell you again that, in the future, you do not send money as a gift unless you really intend it to be a gift with no return investment.... Avoiding the paypal fees by sending 'gifts' can get your account flagged if you do it too often... and it means that you have no way of getting your money back in situations such as this. I'm very sorry that you have likely missed out on your head and your money... It's a crappy thing to have happen... But do take it as a learning experience and always send your money legitimately by selecting the option that best indicates what the payment is for. Also, remember that it is not allowed for an artist to charge you a 'paypal fee', so if you are sending gift payments because of that, then you may need to point out to them that they cannot flat out charge you a 'paypal fee'

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

Thank you. As the saying goes "Life happens" And this is a hard
and expensive lesson to learn.

Its ok really I can in reality build my own head and earn the
money back in a matter of days.

Just kinda peeved ya know? I bought the item to make life
a bit easier so I wouldn't have to build the head but I guess
you can't cut corners.


Again thanks so much!

[spiffystuff.livejournal.com]

Wait, paypal still gets their fees just the buyer pays it, not the seller.
If anyone's gonna get in trouble it's the seller.
Though it's highly possible they'll tell the OP they're SOL because it was a gift. But OP won't get in trouble with paypal.

[msmanuscript.livejournal.com]

Well, it seems you got it! For future reference, this is what I tend to do.

"Hey everyone! I wrote a fic today!

<*lj-cut text="Chapter one"> I put the fic here because it's long.<*/*lj-cut>"

I tend to put all my posts in the HTML tab, rather than the rich text tab. I don't ever use the rich text tab actually, considering as it tends to remove all my links. So I just put in the HTML tags while I type. If you ever need any help or whatever, feel free to ask. People here are really nice, they'll be glad to give you tips.

[goosestep-lion.livejournal.com]

Yeah, it is a shit thing. I have been on the receiving end of shitty artists doing this sort of stuff before.. So I know how you feel.

[goosestep-lion.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure, willing and knowingly participating in sending the money in a way that it was not intended (As a gift instead of a purchase), could get you in trouble... Hopefully it does not! I do know they won't refund the money at least, but hopefully that will be the extent of it.

[wyoon.livejournal.com]

I hate it for ya. I really do. I was hoping people would read back on her crap tastic ways. She got me. Though after about a year, I got this POS foam head. For weeks and months, all sorts of excuses. I was just beside myself with how it went. When I saw her open up for a head commission, I was thinking to myself, Maybe things have changed, maybe she's not scamming people any more. Nope! she keeps coming back up on the radar at least once every year or so. Dang shame it keeps happening. An absolute shame.

I keep the head in the other room and use it for kicking around and stepping on.

[goosestep-lion.livejournal.com]

I dunno, I figured it was a down hill thing when she scammed me on an art trade years ago. She wanted an icon for her website, which I made, and she was to draw for me in exchange but never did... If you will rip someone off for something as simple and easy to make as a drawing, then I'm not surprised you'd rip them off for bigger things.

[wyoon.livejournal.com]

Oh and yea.. the "I just need to get to the post office" hahahaha! Dang.. Same thing I was told.. Months and months before it ever actually got shipped. I liked that one. I saw others post the same thing about it.

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

So frustrating! I even offered to pay her more money
if she gave me her addy so I can call the post office and
schedule a pick up MYSELF!!!

This is ridiculous but like I said I can build my own
head, and better too!
I just wanted the foam base to make life easier and go by
quicker.

If she's sammed more people before I think a group should get
together and report her to Neer.

[avedeareia.livejournal.com]

thanks so much!

[wyoon.livejournal.com]

She's a scammer through and through. I'm surprised she even actually draws. I keep looking for someone to say she's copied their art too.

[msmanuscript.livejournal.com]

Which will do what? I'm sorry to say, but it'll do squat. I suggest looking at the com's tags for "Astray" or "Starfinder." This girl has ripped off hundreds, if not thousands of dollars, and although she was banned from the site once, she's STILL able to use FA to conduct her scams.

The few moderators or admins that would have done anything are gone now, sad to say. Really, contacting the admins about scams on their site will get you ignored, or told that it's "not their job" to monitor what these people are doing. The admins won't help you. And even if they DO, they'll just move to another site, or use a new computer under a new name.

_{Edit: I can spell and use grammar, I swear!}

[silverfalln.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I have to agree. Dragoneer knows a lot of what happens on the site, ignoring most of it, and he really will only act if it threatens his popularity. :/

The moderators that did give a crap, even if I didn't always agree with them, are gone, which is really sad. They at least did their (usually thankless) jobs.

That said, I hope you can get SOMETHING out of this girl, avedeareia.