Deleted post re-post. (Post found, disregard)

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Okay, it looks like what happened is that when the OP unlocked the post, the tags vanished. I'm not sure why I didn't find the post when I was looking for it, but I've readded the tags and the post is alive and well. PLEASE, IF YOU LOCK OR UNLOCK A POST CONTACT A MOD TO REDO THE TAGS AS LJ DELETES THEM! THANKS!

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[stahi.livejournal.com]

Wait, what happen..?

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Synchra deleted the post. So it's being reposted.

[stahi.livejournal.com]

k

[synchra.livejournal.com]

I didn't delete the post??

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

That reply was made before I realized what had happened. As you can see, the post now reflects that it was a combination of my error and LJ's habit of removing tags when a post is unlocked.

[dakotabailey.livejournal.com]

It's worrisome that the post was deleted in the first place :/.

I know that deleting posts isn't allowed but I hope it was an indication that everything was resolved instead of Synchra having more problems with Spain

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

As soon as I'm able to discuss it with other mods, I'm going to be noting her about our policies. We have a 'resolved' tag for those situations, after all.

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

To my limited knowledge, the problems have not at all been resolved.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

I think this is the second post she might have deleted in A_B, after being told deleting was against the rules: at the time she first posted, I remember seeing on that review she linked to, the post Lilenth mentions seems to have mysteriously disappeared.
http://fursuitreviews.livejournal.com/31415.html?thread=151991#t151991
(Just wasn't sure if it was worth bringing up at the time, plus the post was made before the rule was in place.)

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

It's very strange that she'd delete her post here but not the one on fursuitreviews.

I'll point this information out to the other mods and decide what to do.

[dakotabailey.livejournal.com]

That was the first place I checked once I saw it was deleted here. I was surprised to see it up there too.

I know she was pretty hesitant about posting here in the first place
http://fursuitreviews.livejournal.com/31415.html?thread=136375#t136375

Sorry if I shouldn't have had brought that up.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

I recall her hesitation. But that was due to a previous experience where she felt others were being rude to her, and having kept an eye on the post people seemed to be supportive of her for this post considering it was a very valid beware.

[dakotabailey.livejournal.com]

Oh, definitely!

[synchra.livejournal.com]

hey guys.. I never deleted my post.. I am confused.

[dakotabailey.livejournal.com]

Looks like there was a little confusion with the mods, hence the update. :3

[kinas.livejournal.com]

Other people other than the OP can delete posts on here? The heck?

[sunhawk.livejournal.com]

Nah, the OP deleted it.

[kinas.livejournal.com]

Ah right! Thanks for clearing that up :D

[chronidu.livejournal.com]

Odd, I thought posts couldn't be deleted on AB anymore.

[foxhack.livejournal.com]

The people who make the posts can still delete their entries. The mods have no control over this. :(

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Even though it's against the community rules, we have no control over preventing OPs from deleting their posts. This is why we make backup screencaps of every post.

[chronidu.livejournal.com]

Aaaaaaaah okay that makes more sense

[nekomata.livejournal.com]

OT: Haha, rubbish tiger!

[kadaria.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm sorry that this entry was deleted, it had so many good comments and was really well written in terms of providing evidence.

Any idea why it was removed? I hope she wasn't pressured by the artist.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

She did not inform us she was deleting it, and I'm not sure when it was deleted. I happened to realize the post was missing today while looking for it.

[scardykat85.livejournal.com]

No, usually people who take down posts have either negotiated with their commissioner and both ends are satisfied, or are being exposed as making a false claim. I fail to see how someone can be pressured to remove a post, what possible consequence could an artist hold over the poster that would drive them to remove it?

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Starfinder once did indeed blackmail a customer into removing their post here with the threat of never giving them anything, and I believe Zeriara did the same. So it would not be the first time. Those and other instances are why we started archiving posts.

[scardykat85.livejournal.com]

Was there physical evidence of this, or just hearsay? I'm not well read in commissioner drama having only been in this group a short while. I also try not to take any statements as definite truth, even with e-mail screen shots as those can also be faked. At a point of being threatened like that, if it really mattered, then legal action should have been taken. Was there?

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Both of those incidents happened years ago, before the community even had a rule about posts being deleted. The original posters were the ones who informed the public about why they deleted the post, but this was when the community was newer and screenshots of everything weren't required.

Even if it does happen, the penalty is still against the OP for deletion, no matter what the reason. So there's little good reason to lie about why a post was deleted.

[kadaria.livejournal.com]

It was my understanding that it actually happened before in this community with the threat of "Take down the post about me or I will never-ever-ever send the product you paid for that I was supposed to send you 100 years ago anyway."

[scardykat85.livejournal.com]

As I stated above, it's hard for me to see this being the case. And, as the post now is corrected, proves that this is not the case for this complaint. I am also extremely suspicious of any allegation based on e-mail screen shots as these can be faked.

[kadaria.livejournal.com]

Suit yourself, I was only pointing out that there have been artists who have pressured people to remove posts. As Burger stated, that's why they log the posts.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/187548.html

"Starfinder messaged me yesterday afternoon and said "If you remove the post I'll give you a refund." I asked why she wouldn't just give me the picture she said was done, and she said she didn't know what DVD it was saved on.

I said, okay, fine. She refunded me through PayPal and I said I'd remove the post. Then, I asked her what she'd do if I didn't remove the post, and she said she'd reverse the PayPal transaction."

Edit: Speaking of whom, as that's a classic Starfinderism, would it be worth tagging the post I just linked?

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Good call. That may have been before the tagging system was used regularly. I'll tag it now.

[wekhter.livejournal.com]

Er... am I being crazy or is the post still here?

http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/443110.html

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Oh. When I'd viewed the community before, it hadn't shown up and the tags are all missing. That's very odd.

Well, case closed.

[dakotabailey.livejournal.com]

I see it too.

[jaggers.livejournal.com]

if its still there why is the repost still here? :P

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

Because there are a few discussions going on related to deleted posts in general with good information. I've edited the post with the updated information however so there's no confusion.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

And to clear things up further, I've removed the tags from this post and just left it as a reminder that LJ gets rid of tags when a post is locked/unlocked.

[synchra.livejournal.com]

8| never deleted my post...................

I didn't realize unlocking it would do that.. I had like 20 people ask me to unlock it.. I mentioned it in the comments at one point even.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

8| never deleted my post...................

Which is why it now says 'Post found, disregard'.

[synchra.livejournal.com]

yeah.. >.< I didn't actually understand the entry.. when I saw it then I saw all these comments and I was like wtf?!?! then I went back and read the entry after I read the comments and it finally made sense. doh. Sorry.. confusing.. x.x Weird to see a bunch of people talking about you doing something you never did. heh.

But yeah the issue still isn't resolved. I had a demand letter written up and sent it but she never responded so I am probably going to small claims court unless I can find another way of resolving the issue. Any other legal action seems to require a response from the other party though. I wish I could talk to her and just work SOMETHING out instead of doing this but I have tried every thing.

[feather-dancer.livejournal.com]

Well the main thing is we know this can happen now right, just a wierd quirk of LJ :)

Hopefully you can get something out of her though ugh.

[synchra.livejournal.com]

Yeah! very odd. haha.

Good news though on my end! I got mail last night when I came home from work (had to work until 12 am last night.) So I finally have a response and it looks like we may be able to work stuff out now. :) (Finally!!!!!! After a year of waiting for some sort of indication as to what was going on on her end.)

[likeshine.livejournal.com]

that is really disappointing :( i hoped to hear she had done the right thing.

[synchra.livejournal.com]

Good news! I got mail last night when I came home from work. So I finally have a response and it looks like we can work stuff out now. :) (Finally!!!!!! After a year of waiting for some sort of indication as to what was going on on her end.)

[theredwolf.livejournal.com]

Not to be an arse....

But this one needs re-tagged too.
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/444874.html

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

That's not being an arse, that's being helpful! Pointing out stuff that needs to be retagged is always welcome. :D Thanks!