Well shit, son.

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

There is a new FChan-like board, recently.

ChanPlz, run by n.

Why is this being posted here by moi? The DNP (Do Not Post) list is a bit... flakey. Long story short, you pretty much do not have the right to have your images removed unless you can actually lose money because of the images being posted (such as comic book pages and prints). But that being said, I really am not seeing that enforced at this particular moment.

Just thought I'd spread the word. :/

Source: This post.

Edit: The site is down, now.

Comments

[kurtbatz.livejournal.com]

I made a post on it too

My post is here ---> http://www.livejournal.com/~kurtbatz/201805.html

Arcturus has NO RIGHT to allow work to be posted by artists who have requested it stays off the site and NO RIGHT to dictate the terms and conditions by which art may or may not be removed.

I agree with every work Kaputotter has to say, the whole project smacks of trolling to me.

If an artist says they don't want their art posted that should be the end of it. No ifs. No buts. No arguments, discussions or such. It's called respect. Something Arcturus clearly doesn't have even the vaguest knowledge about.

I've just been speaking to a friend of mine who's practically in tears because someone posted personal art of hers to Fchan, even though she's on the DNP list. They won't take it down as it's not commercial.

Now imagine the same situation, without so much as an ATTEMPT at a DNP list. As if thing couldn't get any worse.

Arcturus is getting smacked down by a lot of people over this at the moment and I more than happy to join them.

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

He fucking deserves it.

Honestly, I'm sick of seeing my friend cry over this kind of shit. I don't understand why people can't just respect the fact an artist doesn't want their work posted and move on. Seriously now, it's not like there isn't porn EVERYWHERE ON THE INTERNETZ.

[crssafox.livejournal.com]

See about contacting the person that hosts the page, or his ISP? Re-posting images without consent, and trying to dictate terms like that, is NOT okay (what with an image being created meaning it's copywritten to the creator, and so obviously they should be able to dictate their own terms for the posting of their art) and if enough unhappy people contact his ISP/host, he will probably be shut down.

[kurtbatz.livejournal.com]

Excellent point. If it's a UK based domain (and I know Arcturus personally, he's british) then I wonder how they'd react to the sizeable amount of adult content contained therin and the inclusion of people's intellectual properties against their express wishes?

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

Ya know what ...you should just be happy people like your art enough to post it....no one knows me or cares even if i post my shit anywhere... cripes why do people have a stick up their bum about this crap....

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

Why are you even in this community?

Re: Just remember exposure is a double edged sword

[kurtbatz.livejournal.com]

You make a very good point there.

Sadly, furaffinity had a huge user base. I say sadly, as Arcturus has set it up so anyone that visits the old site automatically gets fowarded to HIS new one.

This new site is in its infancy, people haven't started signing up in droves yet. Before that happens, baring in mind the number of people that used furaffinity, and no doubt would want to again, it's a toss up between keeping quiet and letting Arc get away with it, or letting everyone know what's going on.

Catch 22 if you like.

The dream situation would be if Arcturus started listening to criticism and realised that some artists are going to go ballistic over this, and updated his site to include a DNP list. For that to happen, as many people as possible need to confront him over it with the message that this is an unacceptable way to act.

[dani-kitty.livejournal.com]

The whole thing looks like trolling/joking/LOLing to me, especially considering people seem to be going out of their way in a few places to post/request pictures by people they think likely to cause 'drama'.

I'm not saying it's right, I think it's obnoxious, but just my $.02.

[gymnopedie.livejournal.com]

sure, i'm happy if they ask..

but this happens:

someone takes your art, posts it with arists name

someone sees it on THAT site, and doesnt care enough to take the name... posts it on their site.

someone else sees it on that new site, see's no name. grabs it, cuts it up into pictures, copies it, or reposts it saying THEY drew it. Then THEY sell prints of it, make money off of what you did without anyone knowing who the artist originally was, etc.



have more respect for your work, it deserves it, even if you dont think it's getting the attention. (maybe you need to promote yourself a bit more if you dont think you're getting enough?)

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

The only reason I was in this community if you look back was cause jace owes me a 300$ commission....not for my own art at all....

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

I'd be overjoyed if someone copied or stole my art or something atleast.... right now i'mma no body and it bite bum.

[avocado-maki.livejournal.com]

You'll continue being a nobody if you sit there saying it so much. Just because you're not well known by artwork doesn't mean to say that you're useless and a "no body". People have to promote themselves in order to become something known. If you sit there whining about it you won't get anywhere.

As for the stealing art and copying thing. There is a lot more to it than being flattered that someone took -your- work. Its that they've taken it and pissed all over it and practically destroyed its actual purpos, meaning and spirit of why the heck it was drawn in the first place. Even if it is porn. I certainly would not be overjoyed if something I worked hard on, and meant a lot to me was suddenly yoinked from under my nose and used as a different purpos, and for someone elses enjoyment.

If you do not understand that, you don't know the meaning of the word artist.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

Instead of telling me to promote my art tell me how to promote my art.....
I draw art so people can enjoy it....if they take it and post it to see isn't taht its purpose?

[avocado-maki.livejournal.com]

Artwork does have a variety of purposes, but a lot of artists, like myself, would only allow it to be posted elsewhere if we knew about it, and was asked permission. In the case of this entry, there is artwork that is being posted without permission, and not a lot of artists are going to like it, because due to the lack of a Do-Not-Post list, no one can do anything about it unless the site owner actually listens for once and allows one to be made.

Anyway, if you want to promote yourself a bit more, you need to get out -there- more. Post your work on public galleries if you wish to do so, comment on art more, just get out there and be known. Do a variety of art, do art trades, requests. There's loads of things you can do to achive it. I can't promise it'll happen straight away, but as long as you keep trying, you'll get there eventually.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

But theres really no where to post my stuff now.....

[avocado-maki.livejournal.com]

VCL, Deviantart, SheezyArt, there's probably loads of others.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

VCL the best? i heard SA and DA weren't taht good...

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

Oh, go away already. We're not here to listen to you whine. There are plenty of places to post your work, and if you don't know of any, ask some friends or fucking google for it.

Btw, adding a bunch of periods at the end of everything screams "omg so emo :,(" I'd stop if I were you.

[avocado-maki.livejournal.com]

Well I'm not sure. I'm on DA and SA and not VCL. I find VCL one big furporn site. I used to be on there but I didn't like it.

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

Don't knock it 'til you've tried it.

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

what are you like 8....I happen to be having a disscussion here I didn't realize taht this was "Your" LJ, your source code, and your internet....by the way....

Btw, adding a bunch of periods at the end of everything screams "omg so emo :,(" I'd stop if I were you.

thats pretty much you being asinine

Re: Just remember exposure is a double edged sword

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

I'm quite aware of chan boards and I visit and post to them myself. :P I just figured no one else would post this because, heh, DRAMAAAaaaa...

I'm not "rallying people to shut it down," either, just to make that clear. xD I'm just letting people know it's there. Everyone can do what they want, really. I have no intent on flaming the owner of ChanPlz in their personal stuff or reporting the site, myself-- That's all up to everyone else, if they wish. Assuming the possibility that comic book and print artists watch this community, they can keep watch on the place and ask for their works to be taken down as they appear.

It probably won't be shut down, either. If a site could be shut down for content, all the "chans" would have been shut down long ago. xD

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

Guess who made this entry, and who gets every reply in their Inbox.

Sorry, but I just can't stand people who cry and whine constantly because they have no "exposure" on the internet.

[filthy-animal.livejournal.com]

Ah, okay then. Sorry to hear your got cheated out of your money, though. $300 is quite a lot... c__c

[madd-tom-kit.livejournal.com]

You had your reply to what I said now I was talking to someone else with a different subject in this public community. and if you look there wasn't any whine at all. I don't care what you can stand or can't stand cause it seems you can't stand very much.

Go away child.