Warning about "Jester/Crystal/Ailiah"
Dec. 27th, 2005 11:21 pm![[identity profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/openid.png){kind=small}
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artists_bewareStarfinder offered a comission to this person on October 10th; http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/51812.html
Which was accepted by Jester/Crystal/Ailiah for the ammount of $400 OR a PSP, and a second one which was for $800 for 2 character realism, or a $600 lens + tripod collar.
She then finished the first commission($400 or PSP) on the 14th (within a week, as promised to commissioner);
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/52436.html
Finished peice; http://www.starfinder.biz/sf-ailiah.jpg
Month have gone by and the buyer has not sent the PSP OR the $400 for the completed first. The PSP or $400 was for her birthday, which was Nov.8th, which was agreed to by the commissioner to have to her by then.
The commissioner has backed out of the $800 or a $600 lens + tripod collar after Starfinder has completed alot of work on the second peice (http://www.nvisionphotoandart.com/ailiah-wip4b.jpg)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/61550.html?view=429422#t429422
and then this today. She has repeatly told Starfinder that the item was ordered but was pending - however nither myself or Starfinder beleive the item was ever ordered.
Starfinder is not posting this herself because she knows shes not very well liked here. But, Both of us felt that this commissioner was one to avoid. No payment, even though the first commission is complete, and the second one was well on its way to being finished.
Please do not flame either myself or Starfinder for this, as we're just posting about the dead-beat commissioner. Thanks!
Which was accepted by Jester/Crystal/Ailiah for the ammount of $400 OR a PSP, and a second one which was for $800 for 2 character realism, or a $600 lens + tripod collar.
She then finished the first commission($400 or PSP) on the 14th (within a week, as promised to commissioner);
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/52436.html
Finished peice; http://www.starfinder.biz/sf-ailiah.jpg
Month have gone by and the buyer has not sent the PSP OR the $400 for the completed first. The PSP or $400 was for her birthday, which was Nov.8th, which was agreed to by the commissioner to have to her by then.
The commissioner has backed out of the $800 or a $600 lens + tripod collar after Starfinder has completed alot of work on the second peice (http://www.nvisionphotoandart.com/ailiah-wip4b.jpg)
http://www.livejournal.com/users/sfinder/61550.html?view=429422#t429422
and then this today. She has repeatly told Starfinder that the item was ordered but was pending - however nither myself or Starfinder beleive the item was ever ordered.
Starfinder is not posting this herself because she knows shes not very well liked here. But, Both of us felt that this commissioner was one to avoid. No payment, even though the first commission is complete, and the second one was well on its way to being finished.
Please do not flame either myself or Starfinder for this, as we're just posting about the dead-beat commissioner. Thanks!
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Date: 2005-12-28 05:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 05:58 am (UTC)In all seriousness -- holy crap. That's over a thousand dollars agreed to and backed out of. That's a fucking travesty.
Why did Starfinder accept the second commission from the person when they'd turned up as a deadbeat? Or were both commissions agreed upon at the same time?
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Date: 2005-12-28 06:10 am (UTC)The items that were to be obtained from these commissions were to be my birthday gifts to myself. Now I am out of a PSP, and because she refuses to pay the primary commission in full, giving me $300 as opposed to $400, I have to cut my loss and not get a PSP, and still dig into savings and/or borrow money from my father to buy the lens. In the end..my own gift to myself is costing me money. (I am lucky that currently that same lens is available for $475 with shipping on ebay. This is without the $100+ tripod collar though).
I'm sort of frightened to even show my face in this community since I do have a bad track record, although I have been making recent efforts to improve by keeping clients updated, and working in a more timely manner (this piece was finished just 4 days after it was ordered).
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Date: 2005-12-28 06:17 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:41 am (UTC)but yeah.. this is completely out of character for jester, she usually pays people very quickly, she commissions a lot of people and until this has never ever had any problems.
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Date: 2005-12-28 07:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 07:31 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-29 03:01 pm (UTC)You'd sell it as-is in print form if she paid for it, yes? You already have permission to use the characters, just make prints and be done.
You can still make money off of it, you're not using her characters without her permission (Which she gave when she made the comission).
My $0.02
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Date: 2005-12-29 09:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:30 am (UTC)But yeah, that totally sucks. You can't make them pay half up front, half after or something like that?
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Date: 2005-12-28 07:52 am (UTC)I strongly suggest that anyone who takes commissions at a decently high price on something that requires a lot of time does the same. Small commissions, say under 20, isn't as big of a deal as several hundred dollars lost.
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Date: 2005-12-28 06:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 06:56 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 07:00 am (UTC)Moreso: TALK WITH HER PARENTS!!!
Heh.
they'll get on her ass.
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Date: 2005-12-28 07:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 07:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 11:52 am (UTC)Really.
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Date: 2005-12-29 04:08 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 07:07 am (UTC)And personal matters aside, I have seen OTHER commissioned artwork which she posted in her LJ which she apparently commissioned after mine. Even if she has money issues, telling me "I ordered it, but it's stuck at pending" everytime seems odd, you know? An item only gets stuck in such a state if it is on back order, out of stock, or there are insufficient funds available for the transaction. And to have this happen to multiple retailers? Sounds strange.
Besides, if she couldn't afford it, why take on another one? She asked for two, knowing full well she would owe me either $1200 cash, or $900 in items.
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Date: 2005-12-28 08:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:11 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:59 am (UTC)Given the fact that I take photography seriously, I'd rather have that lens (a good, desirable Canon L-series lens, too) for my set up than a PSP.
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Date: 2005-12-28 07:32 am (UTC)I have a feeling she was just really having problems with getting the money to you.. but she does seem a bit rude about saying that to you. >.< but it might be the amount, I don't know how much she paid people for the other commissions she has asked for, but i know that some of those people do charge more than me. (the one she got from me was only the price of a year subscription to DA.)
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Date: 2005-12-28 06:57 am (UTC)All I ask for is good-solid friendship.
Hell, I'm getting a psp soon. If I don't like it, i'll let you have that as well. i don't like seeing artists jipped.
Happy Holidays,
~Mix.
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Date: 2005-12-28 07:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:06 am (UTC)Though, keep a sharp look out for black-market and price fuck-ups on psp's. Anywhere from $50 at times.
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Date: 2005-12-28 08:10 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:49 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 08:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 01:11 pm (UTC)As for the topic at hand, I'm sorry to hear that someone backed out like that. In the future, for something like this, I'd think that your best bet would be to get partial payment up front - or proof from the person that they actually have the trade item agreed on in hand before you begin work - before continuing on with commissions. Half might be asking a bit much if the commission value is $400, but asking $100 would probably be okay, and that way it'd "soften the blow" so to speak when it comes time for the commissioner to pay.
I certainly agree people shouldn't be taking on commissions that they can't afford. But that's probably why I would insist on a down payment, at least, to be sure that they're serious about wanting what they're commissioning.
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Date: 2005-12-28 03:35 pm (UTC)http://www.livejournal.com/community/furbid_horrors/22095.html
A big "AVOID", imo.
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Date: 2005-12-29 12:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-29 06:35 am (UTC)Just spreading rumours, as always, like the 'furry' you are.
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Date: 2005-12-29 04:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-12-28 07:34 am (UTC)Hope things get settled. That is some really uncalled for shit, especially after a commission is well on its way like that.
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Date: 2005-12-28 03:49 pm (UTC)I cannot fathom how someone would commit to something, be so apparently satisfied, and then leave you twisting in the wind like that.
Sometimes. Folks are flush when they commission work, and then After things are well along, something throws them an unexpected curve hardball.
Even so, a commitment is a commitment.
I look forward to seeing more of your work at FC.
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Date: 2005-12-30 05:11 am (UTC)Either way I am sorry it happened to you.