Artist-Besped
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artists_bewareWHO: Besped
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/besped/
WHAT: Flash Animation (agreement down in the proof section)
WHEN: First contacted Besped back on 15/12/2010 asking him to do a flash animation for me, to which he agreed, and gave me his paypal to make a payment to him.
Requested a refund on 08/10/2011 to be paid within the week, he asked for it to be put back to the 19/10/2011 to which I agreed, but the 19th came and no refund, and he hasn't read my latest note.
PROOF:
The Original Agreement - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped.png
The promise of a refund - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-2.png
I have a paypal screen cap if necessary, but this should suffice for now?
EXPLAIN:
When I first contacted him for a commission, I waited for a sketch before I paid him. The sketch was fairly quick incoming, and I promptly sent off a payment to him. Since I sent him the money, that is pretty much the last evidence of him working on my commission. I would chase him for updates on a regular interval say once a month but I only received one sketch update in the 10 months he has had to do my commission in and only after I kicked up a stink about it.
He has told me on a dozen occasions that he has completed or is nearly completed my commission just to say what I want to hear to make me go away, but no evidence was ever produced to back up that he was progressing on my commission. I have explained in detail that I have been displeased with the way he was treating me, but his has done nothing to change the way he was conducting his business.
On top of this, he is constantly taking new commission queues for flash animations before he is anywhere near finishing the last batch of commissions. Besped's journals with multiple commission lists still outstanding - http://www.furaffinity.net/journals/besped/
Now he has completed some other commissions that were on the other lists, but he doesn't done any work on them in a long time now. I am surprised his name hasn't appeared on here more often considering how many people are waiting for art from him. There are also various comments on his journals of people waiting for 2 years and still not receiving anything from him, the ones that haven't already been deleted that is.
This is more about the principle than the money at this stage.
Edit: Also forgot to mention that he would try and squeese more money out of me about various addons or other commission deals he had going on-
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-3.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-4.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-5.png
Resolved: He Finally came through with my commission. So glad that is over now, made me angry every time I thought of his name.
He asked me to share this message:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-6.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-7.png
If anyone would like some advice regarding how I dealt with it, please don't hesitate to contact me.
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/besped/
WHAT: Flash Animation (agreement down in the proof section)
WHEN: First contacted Besped back on 15/12/2010 asking him to do a flash animation for me, to which he agreed, and gave me his paypal to make a payment to him.
Requested a refund on 08/10/2011 to be paid within the week, he asked for it to be put back to the 19/10/2011 to which I agreed, but the 19th came and no refund, and he hasn't read my latest note.
PROOF:
The Original Agreement - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped.png
The promise of a refund - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-2.png
I have a paypal screen cap if necessary, but this should suffice for now?
EXPLAIN:
When I first contacted him for a commission, I waited for a sketch before I paid him. The sketch was fairly quick incoming, and I promptly sent off a payment to him. Since I sent him the money, that is pretty much the last evidence of him working on my commission. I would chase him for updates on a regular interval say once a month but I only received one sketch update in the 10 months he has had to do my commission in and only after I kicked up a stink about it.
He has told me on a dozen occasions that he has completed or is nearly completed my commission just to say what I want to hear to make me go away, but no evidence was ever produced to back up that he was progressing on my commission. I have explained in detail that I have been displeased with the way he was treating me, but his has done nothing to change the way he was conducting his business.
On top of this, he is constantly taking new commission queues for flash animations before he is anywhere near finishing the last batch of commissions. Besped's journals with multiple commission lists still outstanding - http://www.furaffinity.net/journals/besped/
Now he has completed some other commissions that were on the other lists, but he doesn't done any work on them in a long time now. I am surprised his name hasn't appeared on here more often considering how many people are waiting for art from him. There are also various comments on his journals of people waiting for 2 years and still not receiving anything from him, the ones that haven't already been deleted that is.
This is more about the principle than the money at this stage.
Edit: Also forgot to mention that he would try and squeese more money out of me about various addons or other commission deals he had going on-
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-3.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-4.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-5.png
Resolved: He Finally came through with my commission. So glad that is over now, made me angry every time I thought of his name.
He asked me to share this message:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-6.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/40345693/Besped-7.png
If anyone would like some advice regarding how I dealt with it, please don't hesitate to contact me.
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Date: 2011-10-23 10:14 am (UTC)Might wanna get a screenshot of that before they scroll off/are deleted, just in case.
Hope you get a refund, sounds like he's done little to no work on your commission at all :/
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Date: 2011-10-23 01:07 pm (UTC)Not sure if the third shout down is asking for a commission status or not, but I included it anyway.
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Date: 2011-10-23 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-23 09:12 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-23 11:56 pm (UTC)Might wanna inform him that he's been put on here.
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Date: 2011-10-24 12:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-24 06:40 am (UTC)I will believe it when i see it but hopefully this thread has kicked his butt into action.
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Date: 2011-10-25 09:43 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-25 10:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-25 02:03 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-26 06:09 pm (UTC)I was actually thinking of putting him on AB myself but I guess I am too friendly.
He still owes me a animation. my first contact with him was on November 22nd, 2010 06:01 according to my notes, meaning it is almost a year now that I payed him for it.
All I have seen so far is a little animated gif image he send me once.
He promised multiple times to finish the animation, but nothing happend. Telling me he had problems with school, his hard drive broke, or he simply had not time were the excuses I got as an answer to my question when he would be able to finish my commission.
The last contact I had with him was a view days ago when I asked him if he could at least provide some aniated samples so I could see he was working on it. He again promised to send it the next days, but even this was three dsay ago.
I am a patient person, but enough is enough. And if Mr. Besped is reading this - blame yourself. It takes alot to make me support an artists beware, just sayin'
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Date: 2011-10-26 08:55 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-08 01:23 pm (UTC)UPDATE
Date: 2011-11-05 10:40 am (UTC)Let's see what turns out.
Re: UPDATE
Date: 2011-11-05 01:18 pm (UTC)SOLVED
Date: 2011-11-08 09:48 am (UTC)Re: SOLVED
Date: 2011-11-08 01:24 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-11-27 02:28 am (UTC)