Artist Beware - ZiggyHusky

[sintocat.livejournal.com]

WHO: ZiggyHusky

WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ziggyhusky/

WHAT: Refuse to pay full or sketched amount.

WHEN: First started around February 6th-7th.

PROOF:

Our notes where he agrees to the commission and asks for minor changes. - http://i.imgur.com/ZuHuV.png

Feb 25th - http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/shout.jpg

March 2nd - He finally responds - http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/ziggy.jpg

March 2nd - He had paid $40 to the person under me with the pink Icon that week. (he was supposed to pay me February 14th) http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/zigcopy.jpg

March 6th - Tried to get his attention again in hopes he would respond. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/zig-.jpg

March 6th - Responded informing me he was not going to pay. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/willnotzig.jpg

(EDIT 3/10/2012) - Here is the sketch I sent him, btw. If anyone happens to see him post it please let me know. http://i.imgur.com/RCiI4.png

(EDIT 3/11/2012) - I sent an FA admin a note about my situation -

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Hello Skiefire, I was hoping you could help/advise me about my current problem on FA

I'm not exactly sure what the admins can do about this if anything at all, but I just wanted to bring it to your attention that this individual (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/ziggyhusky/) had entered into an agreement with me for a commission and once he received a sketch, decided to bail out on paying me. I asked him that if he couldn't pay for the full commission of $55 that he send me $10 for the sketch I had made for him. He told me he couldn't because of bills - yet pays someone $40 that week. (when he had owed me weeks before.) Below I have all the notes and shouts that go back and forth. If you find the time I would greatly appreciate you taking a look. If nothing can be done about it I understand, but it thought it better to at least let you guys know about him if any future incidents come up.

Our notes where he agrees to the commission and asks for minor changes. - http://i.imgur.com/ZuHuV.png

Feb 25th - http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/shout.jpg

March 2nd - He finally responds - http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/ziggy.jpg

March 2nd - He had paid $40 to the person under me with the pink Icon that week. (he was supposed to pay me February 14th) http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/zigcopy.jpg

March 6th - Tried to get his attention again in hopes he would respond. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/zig-.jpg

March 6th - Responded informing me he was not going to pay. http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj154/Fandkun/willnotzig.jpg

Thanks for your time,
Aly

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Hopefully something can be done - If not, at least they are aware of the situation. Sadly, I don't see me getting the $10 that he owes me, but thank you all for the advice and support! I suppose I'll be taking this as a live and learn situation :)


(EDIT - 3/12/12) - My TT was responded to very quickly!

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Thanks for the ticket. We can't do anything to the user now unfortunately as commissions are a buyer (or seller) beware issue. We are going to keep an eye on the account to monitor for anymore scam situations.

I recommend posting to Artists_Beware to warn other artists of this user. They have a great set up and moderators that really benefits the community and helps artists avoid this sort of thing that falls through the cracks of the website.

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Even though nothing can be done I'm happy that they are keeping and eye on him - It's about as best as a solution as I could have realistically asked for I guess. I hope Ziggy will come around and pay me the $10 he owes me but I don't see it happening unfortunately lol. Hope this has helped other artists who may be commissioned by him in the future! Best of luck guys!



EXPLAIN: I'm really not sure what happened to be honest. Everything was going fine and he seemed to like the picture. He asked for changes and I told him I would make those changes after I got payment. He then started to make excuses why he couldn't pay - first it was Tuesday of next week. I waited till that Thursday to contact him. Then he said he'd send me it the next day, which didn't happen. I think the thing that frustrates me the most is when he said "I have bills to pay so I can't pay you." When not a few days early he spent $40 on a commission slot...He only needed to pay me $10 to get the sketch and finish with our business :/. The reason I am posting this after the 8th (the due date I told him he had till) was because of his last shout on my page telling me he's not going to pay me - so why bother waiting. I now plan to watermark all my sketches before sending them out for approval.

Comments

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

Last time a situation like this got posted on A_B (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/561684.html) and the person was told to go to the FA staff, the admins refused to do anything, though, because it was "an agreement between seller and buyer" - even though it was all hosted on FA, and the buyer that won the auction had no intention of paying from the outset.

[sintocat.livejournal.com]

Bummer :/

[taasla.livejournal.com]

Generally, FA will not step in between transactions despite them originating on FA. It takes a lot, and I mean a lot, before FA admins will step in. Those who have been banned previously for skipping out on commissions or payments may return so long as they don't mess up again.

A good example of FA being hesitant to do something is Starfinder/ Astray/ Kannos. It took a lot of outside pressure for her to finally be banned.

[rtydmartel.livejournal.com]

Do not despair!

Even in the case that they don't intervene, like timelapsedecay said, the fa mods probably keep records of complaints raised.

If the mods receive more complaints or reports about ZiggyHusky in the future, they'll probably see that it wasn't an isolated incident and that the user has some history of misbehaving, which at least will ensure that they pay more attention to the case.

Even if bringing your case to their attention doesn't guarantee a solution, it's better to leave a precedent than to leave them in the dark about how their userbase behaves and how it might affect their community.

I sincerely hope that everything works out for the best and that you get your money soon.

[sintocat.livejournal.com]

Thank you! I guess I'll go give them this information now and see what can be done.

[rtydmartel.livejournal.com]

Good luck!

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

The way something is resolved on FA can vary based on the admin who answers the ticket. I recommend going to the FA staff anyway, so at least there is a paper trail of past problems.