[identity profile] cheshirenekoboi.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware

WHO: BunnyBunsandTails on dA/RabbitTales on FB

WHERE: Transaction details were conversed on DeviantART

WHAT: 2 Wig commissions valued at 55 per wig, $110 all up.

WARNING **LONG FILE UNDER CUT***







The file above explains the When, Proof and Explain very well. ^^' I hope this is okay. 

Side-note: I did not ask the deviants of Complaints forum to harass or point out Bunny's errors to her. I honestly did not expect them to pounce on her the way they have. Nonetheless, she continues to hide the comments, even marking them as spam, pretending as if nothing's happened.


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Date: 2012-10-01 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] splatterhouse.livejournal.com
This is incredibly hard to look at and follow.

Date: 2012-10-01 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
You think so? While image reports are rare and unusual, I thought it was pretty easy to follow. Though I admit I would prefer people didn't do it this way in the future.

Date: 2012-10-01 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vtforpedro.livejournal.com
I didn't find this hard to follow myself, though I've certainly never seen a beware posted like this!

To me, you seemed very polite and professional in all your contact with her. You had every right to ask for a refund at that point and I find her TOS and behavior abysmal. Yikes, beware well warranted.

Date: 2012-10-01 09:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xisidereal.livejournal.com
I actually liked it a bit more than the link to this, go back, link to that, go back. It made it super easy for me to read!

Date: 2012-10-01 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] splatterhouse.livejournal.com
It's probably my own preference for neat paragraphs of reasonably sized text & links vs. giant page-stretching jpegs with oversized random fonts (& that was a serious statement, not snarky like it will inevitably appear - I have a very strong preference for information to be presented in a academic/professional manner).

Date: 2012-10-01 10:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] puppetmaker40.livejournal.com
This seems to me to be a clear case of an artist who can't separate the personal from the business and they bring their personal feelings into situations where they shouldn't be.

The reasoning that they can hold onto the money that was paid to them for goods which were not delivered if they find that their client is "trouble" shows an emotional response to something that they perceive rather than good business practice.

After the monetary breakdown of where the money went, I think the solution would have been to send the OP the wigs and both parties have done with it. If Rabbit Tales has bought the wigs then the wigs belong to the OP.

I am going to ignore the side projects on this. I have build a plush or a puppet in the middle of working on a commissioned piece to clear my head. However I keep a careful eye on my deadline(s) and make sure my clients know where things stand. WIP are important here.

Now the $110 question is, did she send you the things that she said she was going to send you?

Date: 2012-10-02 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladespark.livejournal.com
Honestly, you are *partly* at fault for not giving a deadline when you had a deadline in mind. Yes you were under the impression that it would go quickly, but the artist never promised that to you, so they were under no obligation to meet an invisible deadline they never knew existed. That is really entirely on your head.

But they are *massively* at fault for their horrible reaction to your request for a refund. They should have attempted to work things out, not lashed back and acted as though you were making some kind of personal attack on them.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xisidereal.livejournal.com
In that regard, it's probably my poor eyes appreciating said oversized fonts XD

Date: 2012-10-02 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taasla.livejournal.com
Uh, no. It is theft to take your money and not deliver something for your money. It isn't your fault that she doesn't know how to balance her costs and time it takes her to style the wig.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taasla.livejournal.com
This! I have poor vision, and I greatly appreciated the huge font, lol.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xisidereal.livejournal.com
I do the highlight or +ctrl trick all the time on AB, so this was a welcome change XD

Date: 2012-10-02 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazy-onna.livejournal.com
I'm concerned that if the image link ever stops working then all the information about the beware would be gone.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
That's part of why I don't prefer it, but we do archive bewares, so don't worry. It was difficult to screencap though because of that, which is the other reason.

Date: 2012-10-02 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
We log all bewares in our own archives, so in that event we can pull it back up.

Date: 2012-10-02 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jakejynx.livejournal.com
So, did you ever receive the wigs and extensions?

Date: 2012-10-02 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genkigami.livejournal.com
This was really easy to follow! I like how this beware was put together.

That being said, something stops being a hobby when you start taking money for it. You can't take money for a product and then tell someone to shove off when they want their product, that's theft.

Avoiding. Shame, I love their pony wigs and would've considered them for a Roseluck wig.

Date: 2012-10-02 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lem0ntrees.livejournal.com
Personally, I love the way this beware was formatted. I vastly prefer something like this to *giant pile of links* followed by a long paragraph of explanation.

What this artist is doing is theft, plain and simple. You cannot just take someone's money and then never deliver their product, even if they were really nasty to you. OP was very nice and patient, and the artist was way out of line.

I think the only mistake OP made was not establishing a deadline. Even if it is 6 months to a year out, always make your deadline known.

Date: 2012-10-02 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sushidragon.livejournal.com
I actually can't see it at all on my iPod, I think it's too big for the device to handle.

Date: 2012-10-02 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-sushi-ushi.livejournal.com
I personally found it easier too! I hate going back and fowarth between links. Eventually I hit TLDR when that happens.
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