Artist Beware - Hinauchi

[azeska.livejournal.com]

First of all, I must say that I do not have a lot of pictures to prove our conversations, Due to Hinauchi deleting me from her skype, making me unable to get the conversations back.

First proof. Here is the WORK IN PROGRESS she has posted on furaffinity of my fursuit. http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6443683/ Do note it was posted (as of this time) A year ago. (September 5th, 2011) About 5 months after I had purchased my suit.

Proof link of A recent message we had on facebook as of November 24, 2012 1. http://imgur.com/6MxxI 2. http://imgur.com/Jjsli and 3. http://imgur.com/tfMSN

The proof that she no longer is on my skype contacts http://imgur.com/6WQ8h

Recent proof she is now raising a ton money to see her "bby" for her leisure http://imgur.com/SJKk5

++ My comment that got marked as spam, ( It was me informing to the public that she is raising money for yet another thing, even though she still has not shipped what i ordered) http://imgur.com/bPjOU

Then, her proceeding to tell someone that "I should have noted her" Even though she never contacts me http://imgur.com/vTc27

Explination.

I made my fursuit purchase from Hinauchi In early April 2011. I did not order the fursuit to be here on a specific date, although i had figured it wouldn't take too long, considering i've seen her make fursuits often, she even set up a fusuit website of her own here http://speckledbluenose.weebly.com/ so I assumed she was somewhat proffessional about it. I payed around $445 for a fursuit head, tail, and paws of my old character Rayne via paypal.

Basically, I have asked her about how she was doing on it since the purchase via skype, but i no longer can reach the conversations due to her unadding me. I do remember her taking forever to even show me pictures of my commission, giving me dates on when the fursuit should ship to me, and then my fursuit of course never getting to me. Apparently, as she has told me, her mother stole my shipping money. Which is of course theft, and is illegal. I asked for her mothers number, and she refused to give it to me.

She has made countless excuses since 2011 such as;
Her mother wont take her to the store for supplies
Her mother stole the money
Her camera was broken
She was busy
She was going through a hard time
She was at her dads
She was moving

It has been almost 2 years now since i have purchased it, and all she does is give me excuses and sad stories and explanations on why she couldn't ship it to me. Then informing me that it should get to me soon, when it never does.

I don't understand why she can finish other people's commissions, such as drawings, and never have any time to go to a post office to ship a package. She claims that it is "buried under a mountain of shit in her closet" and she plans to "dig it out and get it shipped" Which she has been saying for months of course.

I posted a comment on the journal talking about raising money to see her lover to inform people that she isn't responsible enough to get purchases to people.

She is lazy, irresponsible, and immature.
I did not wish to post something like this, although it has bothered me for far too long and people should have a right to know, considering she opens auctions, commissions, and other things where she must send commissions out.

It's a very confusing position to be in.

Comments

[timelapsedecay.livejournal.com]

:/
I guess she hasn't changed much.
Sorry this happened to you

[ominous-pants.livejournal.com]

i hate when artists like this try to do the I WISH EVERYONE WOULD STOP YELLING AT ME thing when you're trying to figure out what's going on. :I not your fault.
also, i think you can still retrieve your chat history if someone has removed if you if they're still in the "recent conversations" section- i don't know, though, it could be different in the newer versions of skype.

[xisidereal.livejournal.com]

How does /anyone/ still do business with her nasty attitude??

I am very sorry for your interactions with her. :/

[artic-dragoness.livejournal.com]

I know this isn't helpful now, but I would never buy a large piece / suit from someone who is underage. She's currently 17, and if you ordered it after March 2011, she would have been only 16 a the time. If you paid before that, she would have only been 15 (her DA shows her birthdate). Besides maturity issues, if I remember correctly, there are also legal issues in buying something (or getting money back) from a person who is not considered legally responsible for themselves yet.

...though your FA says you're 14, so :I Bad news all around.

[timelapsedecay.livejournal.com]

While it might sound a little judgmental I'll have to agree. Even if you're underage yourself, OP, try to do business only with adults. Adults can be held personally responsible for their business transactions, minors in most countries cannot be.

[tealmoonxiv.livejournal.com]

What horrible behavior.

[teacup-werewolf.livejournal.com]

Here we go again.

[dragontripmon.livejournal.com]

Looks like your not the only one who is having trouble. There's quie a few people on Hina FA page complaining. Also someone posted this link. http://forgetsanity.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d5rg4oi

[tealmoonxiv.livejournal.com]

Her FA shouts are full of people complaining as well.

[uriiko.livejournal.com]

This girl seriously needs to get her act together.
After the little chat we had on her last beware I am really not fond of this person. While she is underaged even now, she has the attitude and mindset of a 12 year old. She has no idea what making excuses is, and will tell you that her saying she's currently injured, etc, is not making an excuse.
I would have watched out for commissioning someone underage, while you are as well it sounds like you have a parent's consent to commission. I don't know if she has had as many warning signs in 2011 as she does now, but I'm sorry you have to go through this and I do hope it gets resolved, no one should have to go through this.
This is kind of unrelated but I notice that she swears quite a bit while talking to her clients, it's kind of unsettling, and very unprofessional. Though she claims she isn't a professional, so I guess that doesn't matter.

[0acorn0.livejournal.com]

Totally off topic, but your icon and character is gorgeous.

[uriiko.livejournal.com]

Thank you, sorry for getting back to you so late, haha ;A; I really appreciate it <3

[lackoflollies.livejournal.com]

This makes me so upset. I LOVED the piece I got from her, and I wanted more, but if i'm gonna get this kind of reception as a customer... then no. I'll take my business elsewhere.

[sableantelope.livejournal.com]

Wow, I'm so sorry you were caught up with, OP.

I wonder at her reasons for posting pelts she has simply bought from ebay other than to still up drama.
Skins she has mounted is another thing, as having done some taxidermy myself it takes effort and some artistry.

I hope this last bit is not too OT but I noticed something on her fursuit page, and I have seen it before on other fursuits and on Fur Suit Reviews. Why is it that when painting or colouring in the iris and pupil of a eye so often makers do not using something like a compass, or trace something small and round to get a reasonably even circle.

Like this from this artist:
http://sbncostumegllery.weebly.com/uploads/7/5/2/2/7522268/2938313_orig.jpg

http://sbncostumegllery.weebly.com/uploads/7/5/2/2/7522268/2357003_orig.jpg

Another maker(we all know who *L*)
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7789686/

I just don't get how you can do all the sewing and then get to the eyes, which are what really bring a suit to life and say well, fuck it, I'll just freehand this and hope it is not just a blobby mess.

I mean surely even if you other construction skills will still in the learning stage you would still notice mishappen, non matching eyes and think it was your duty to redo it so at least the iris and pupil shapes matched.

Unless these characters all have iris colobomas...

[sableantelope.livejournal.com]

Caught up with *her*
Very sorry.

I accidentally a word. ;)

[neolucky.livejournal.com]

While I agree they are quite off looking, we do have a rule that states:

4. No criticism of artistic quality or monetary value.

We aren't here to really criticize how an artist does their craft and we'd appreciate these comments not to be made, thanks!

[sableantelope.livejournal.com]

I'm so sorry, I seriously must apologise because I am perfectly aware of that rule so I have zero excuses. It's like I just spaced out for a moment and thought 'whoa, hey I wonder if anyone else notices this in some suit builders?' completely forgetting where I was commenting and all AB etiquette.

Very, very sorry!

[neolucky.livejournal.com]

Don't worry about it! Sall good =)

[cathzcathz.livejournal.com]

I'm close to calling paypal myself but I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt..

[kaliedosock.livejournal.com]

Don't give her the benefit of the doubt. She's been doing this for a long time, and it's highly likely that she won't change in the slightest.

[clockmagic.livejournal.com]

This.

[thaily.livejournal.com]

I can't help but wonder if her mother knows her daughter is telling strangers she's stealing money from her daughter.

[cathzcathz.livejournal.com]

I think she has no idea, since she uses that a lot. She sticks to that.

[thaily.livejournal.com]

I'm wondering if this could be fixed by contacting her mother.

[cathzcathz.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't know how to get that information.

[wuvvumsoc.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't try getting the information anyways. I know it's a matter of a transaction, but something rubs me as stalkerish once we have people contacting parents over how their kids behave online.

I just have that feeling it won't end well at all.

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

Thank you, that's really been bothering me too.

[wuvvumsoc.livejournal.com]

I really hope this community doesn't advocate something like that by the way. I don't think we can really tell the OP what to do but I do remember someone (I think IK) who kept trying to "drop dox" on every artist posted here. :/

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

No, discussing the maybes "What if" is tolerated, but taking the actual steps would be means for an end to the conversation. There's no need for "doxing" anyone.

[cathzcathz.livejournal.com]

I wouldn't attempt to do that, it's against the law and invading in someone's personal space.

Today actually I finally got my artwork from her. So things are resolved but for this OP. Not so sure.

[paradedemon.livejournal.com]

Agreed. Despite the fact I myself am underaged and tell my parents about all commissions I take (minus my smaller digital art commissions) I would feel very uncomfortable to say the least to have people contacting my parents about how I behave. (Though I think I behave quite fine.)

I doubt my parents would be comfortable with a stranger contacting them abou me either. .-.

[tealmoonxiv.livejournal.com]

I was wondering the same thing.

[tifaria.livejournal.com]

I don't understand how it can end up buried under junk in the back of the closet if it was just waiting to get shipped? Like... that just says to me that she didn't care and never had any intention of shipping it at all.

At some point, if all of those excuses are true, you have to ask yourself if it's really worth the trouble to continue to take on commissions. If you can't get a ride to ship things, if family members are stealing your money, if things end up buried in your closet... maybe it's time to stop 'til you can sort out your personal life.

[keaalu.livejournal.com]

On a related note: assuming it's not just hyperbole on Hinauchi's part, the description of it being "buried under a mountain of shit" and needing "digging out" would really worry me, too. What on earth is the quality of it going to be like if/when the OP finally gets the product they paid for? (Crushed to hell and unwearable, I shouldn't wonder.)

[ominous-pants.livejournal.com]

Yeah like....I would just assume that a) my product is covered in literal shit or b) shes too lazy to get something out of a closet

[pantherotter.livejournal.com]

Pinning the blame on your mother for 'stealing' the shipping money? Really? Judging by her maturity level (or lack of), she probably spent it and has no way of getting that money back, which is why it is taking forever to get to you. :/

That is what bothers me about certain people who do commissions or any type of selling online. When you pay for shipping, that is not money for them to keep and spend to their whim! As someone who sells online and adds a shipping charge, that is the money for shipping your item out! The money they make for the costume, plush, painting, whatever you can think of is theirs, but I don't understand what makes these people think the payment for shipping is theirs as well. It's seperate for a reason. There should be no excuse once she is able to find transportation to send your item out, unless she is really that lazy. :(

[nxcritter.livejournal.com]

I find it odd that she's posted this http://www.furaffinity.net/view/7522103/ And still hasn't sent your suit :/ she has enough time make another suit and can't find the time to ship yours?

I wish you the best of luck!

[doggiy.livejournal.com]

Going back to look through all of these HinaUchi bewares, because there have been even more mentions of her apparently scamming people... I'm on good terms with her, but nonetheless, her behavior with commissions is uncalled for.