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artists_bewareWHO: Fenrir's Child/Mordrude's Monsters
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fenrirschild/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/mordrudesmonsters http://fenrirschild.deviantart.com/ http://www.mordrudesmonsters.com/
WHAT: Full fursuit commission
WHEN: First payment May 20, 2011, paid in full July 31, 2011. Fursuit head stolen early December 2012, refund received January 23, 2013.
PROOF: Paypal payments: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/Paypalscreen-1.jpg (Fen's real name blurred, all non-relevant transactions crossed out)
Initial Contact: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Si
Fen's old TOS: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Si
FA notes, kindly provided by Synwolf, showing proof of Fen's accusations that I stole the head:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/81
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/54
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/25
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/82
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/58
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/25
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/81
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-image
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-imag
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/82
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/70
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83
EXPLAIN: I commissioned Fenrir's Child/Mordrude's Monsters for a full fursuit in 2011, with the original soft completion date of Rainfurrest 2011. We knew it was an ambitious target, so it wasn't disappointing when it wasn't done yet. Shortly after Rainfurrest 2011, there was some personal drama between myself and my ex best friend, which Fenrir's Child had inadvertently became involved with in other ways. Unknown to me at the time, this caused her to lose motivation to work on my fursuit. Several deadlines were set and missed. The first deadline after the drama was for January 2012, where I would pick up the fursuit for the When Furballs Strike 8 bowling meet in Kenmore, WA. When my wife and I went, the fursuit was not yet completed. The head was finished on the outside, but unwearable due to incomplete interior work.
Because of the delays, Fen had offered free upgrades to make up for the extended wait. I gladly accepted. Unfortunately, upgrades aren't any good unless you actually get the fursuit.
The next date was set for another When Furballs Strike meet in late May 2012. Again, the fursuit was not complete, with several months going by with absolutely no work done. The next completion date was set for Halloween 2012. Needless to say, it wasn't finished either. In November Fen had opened up for more commissions, and one of my closest friends had posted on her journal asking about my fursuit: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/Journalcomment.png Shortly after, Fen had finally come forward with why she had not been working on my fursuit this whole time, and offered a partial refund, which I politely declined because of financial troubles on her end: http://pastebin.com/k2PACa6X We decided to push for December completion.
In early December, it was discovered that my head was missing, believed stolen. We discussed various options, including her remaking a head if I don't dock her in reviews or I pay $300, I get the remainder of the suit plus a partial refund, or, least desireable, a full refund. However, she backed out of any agreements and said she will be refunding me, without any say in the matter, in 45 days from the date of the police report for the claimed theft. Here is the full chatlog from that conversation: http://pastebin.com/q1UbWVix
On the day the refund was due, she paid at 10 PM, without answering my emails or IMs asking what's going on, since it was getting late in the day and I still hadn't received my refund. Thankfully I did eventually find the refund in my paypal account, and our transaction is closed.
Throughout this entire ordeal, I have been as patient as humanly possible, when all my friends were saying I should be making a fuss and have posted her on A_B a long time ago. Before the head was stolen, even Fen agrees I've been extremely patient: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/FensaysImpatient.png This entire commission has been nothing but constant waiting and repeated disappointment. There were many times I had felt absolutely trapped. I wanted to speak up and say she was taking too long, but if I did, I feared she would rush and push out a sub-par product, or give up and refund me without even trying to finish it. When she backed out of our agreement to let me have the rest of the fursuit minus the head, the gloves came off.
While Fen's quality of work is extremely good, she simply lacks professionalism, basic business ethics, and the ability to complete large projects on time, allowing personal drama to interfere with her commissions. For small items such as tails, she would be a great builder to consider, but for anything more, I say Buyer Beware.
Edit: Updated the proof to include initial email and Fen's old TOS. Also fixed a typo that had been driving me nuts.
Edit 2: Added the FA notes between Synwolf and Fen, kindly provided by Synwolf.
WHERE: http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fenrirschild/ http://www.furaffinity.net/user/mordrudesmonsters http://fenrirschild.deviantart.com/ http://www.mordrudesmonsters.com/
WHAT: Full fursuit commission
WHEN: First payment May 20, 2011, paid in full July 31, 2011. Fursuit head stolen early December 2012, refund received January 23, 2013.
PROOF: Paypal payments: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/Paypalscreen-1.jpg (Fen's real name blurred, all non-relevant transactions crossed out)
Initial Contact: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Si
Fen's old TOS: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Si
FA notes, kindly provided by Synwolf, showing proof of Fen's accusations that I stole the head:
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/81
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/54
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/25
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/82
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/58
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/25
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/81
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-image
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-imag
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/82
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/70
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/83
EXPLAIN: I commissioned Fenrir's Child/Mordrude's Monsters for a full fursuit in 2011, with the original soft completion date of Rainfurrest 2011. We knew it was an ambitious target, so it wasn't disappointing when it wasn't done yet. Shortly after Rainfurrest 2011, there was some personal drama between myself and my ex best friend, which Fenrir's Child had inadvertently became involved with in other ways. Unknown to me at the time, this caused her to lose motivation to work on my fursuit. Several deadlines were set and missed. The first deadline after the drama was for January 2012, where I would pick up the fursuit for the When Furballs Strike 8 bowling meet in Kenmore, WA. When my wife and I went, the fursuit was not yet completed. The head was finished on the outside, but unwearable due to incomplete interior work.
Because of the delays, Fen had offered free upgrades to make up for the extended wait. I gladly accepted. Unfortunately, upgrades aren't any good unless you actually get the fursuit.
The next date was set for another When Furballs Strike meet in late May 2012. Again, the fursuit was not complete, with several months going by with absolutely no work done. The next completion date was set for Halloween 2012. Needless to say, it wasn't finished either. In November Fen had opened up for more commissions, and one of my closest friends had posted on her journal asking about my fursuit: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/Journalcomment.png Shortly after, Fen had finally come forward with why she had not been working on my fursuit this whole time, and offered a partial refund, which I politely declined because of financial troubles on her end: http://pastebin.com/k2PACa6X We decided to push for December completion.
In early December, it was discovered that my head was missing, believed stolen. We discussed various options, including her remaking a head if I don't dock her in reviews or I pay $300, I get the remainder of the suit plus a partial refund, or, least desireable, a full refund. However, she backed out of any agreements and said she will be refunding me, without any say in the matter, in 45 days from the date of the police report for the claimed theft. Here is the full chatlog from that conversation: http://pastebin.com/q1UbWVix
On the day the refund was due, she paid at 10 PM, without answering my emails or IMs asking what's going on, since it was getting late in the day and I still hadn't received my refund. Thankfully I did eventually find the refund in my paypal account, and our transaction is closed.
Throughout this entire ordeal, I have been as patient as humanly possible, when all my friends were saying I should be making a fuss and have posted her on A_B a long time ago. Before the head was stolen, even Fen agrees I've been extremely patient: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/FensaysImpatient.png This entire commission has been nothing but constant waiting and repeated disappointment. There were many times I had felt absolutely trapped. I wanted to speak up and say she was taking too long, but if I did, I feared she would rush and push out a sub-par product, or give up and refund me without even trying to finish it. When she backed out of our agreement to let me have the rest of the fursuit minus the head, the gloves came off.
While Fen's quality of work is extremely good, she simply lacks professionalism, basic business ethics, and the ability to complete large projects on time, allowing personal drama to interfere with her commissions. For small items such as tails, she would be a great builder to consider, but for anything more, I say Buyer Beware.
Edit: Updated the proof to include initial email and Fen's old TOS. Also fixed a typo that had been driving me nuts.
Edit 2: Added the FA notes between Synwolf and Fen, kindly provided by Synwolf.
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Date: 2013-01-29 05:53 pm (UTC)As shown in the chatlogs, I was nothing but patient and courteous with Fen, up until she made the decision to refund me without giving me any say in the matter, after I had agreed to two of the options she had presented me. Only after that is when I spoke out publicly against Fen and posted to my DeviantArt journals. When she posted the stolen head alert on her FA, several people took my silence as an admission of guilt, but I didn't want to speak publicly until Fen and I had discussed the business end of things.
Also, claims that I have done nothing to aid the search are false. I posted an alert on several furry Facebook groups I am a member of. Screencap: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/FacebookPSA.png
With the police investigation, Fen had only told the detective about the fursuit head and neglected to mention the rest. In my conversation with the detective, he mentioned he found out that the commission was more more than just the head through my DA journals. There were also no signs of forced entry to Fen's garage, but there wasn't enough evidence to secure a search warrant to search Fen's home for the head.
Furthermore, the deputy confirmed that Fen indeed accused me of stealing the head, but even he agreed that it makes no sense and didn't consider me a suspect.
In response to Drone Dragon, yes, I do have the first emails from our initial contact, but it's too large to screencap. I might need to find a program that'll take scrolling screenshots.
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Date: 2013-01-29 06:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-29 06:26 pm (UTC)(To those wondering, yes, I still use Yahoo Mail Classic. The workaround is to use the User Agent Switcher add-on in Firefox and change it to an older version if IE, and you can set Yahoo to stay in Classic mode.)
Surprisingly, the link to Fen's original TOS still works: http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/FensTOS.png
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Date: 2013-01-29 06:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-29 06:43 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 03:34 am (UTC)Although if I had been online sooner I would have informed you that it wasn't needed any longer since Fen decided to visit this community post and write her response. Her information above doesn't dispute anything you mentioned dating back to a 2001 commission, so I would have said you were in the clear! Again thanks for the additional information though! :D
[Edited for typo!]
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Date: 2013-01-30 12:18 am (UTC)Isn't that like... not something they do?
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Date: 2013-01-30 03:51 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 06:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-01-30 06:53 pm (UTC)In addition, there weren't charges being filed against Cani, and it was a detective, not a deputy?
As I live in a small town myself, if something isn't a huge investigation, we can ask police officers what's going on and they can tell us up to a point.
It's much different in murder, grand theft, large court cases.
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Date: 2013-01-30 10:16 pm (UTC)I come from a very small town, and this kind of stuff is common. It wouldn't fly in the city though.
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Date: 2013-02-02 06:00 am (UTC)Watch this video and pay attention to the recall quiz in it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik
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Date: 2013-02-02 03:51 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-02-02 08:09 pm (UTC)I also don't trust screenshots because they can be fake. If you like I can demonstrate.
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Date: 2013-02-02 08:20 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-02-04 12:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2013-02-03 02:36 am (UTC)Simply put, I'll stop defending myself when everyone else stops attacking me and bombarding me with false accusations. I just had to answer yet another accusation on my DA from someone claiming I stole the head. As I told her, the ONLY thing I have done "wrong" was let my anger get the best of me, and I've been wrongfully demonized throughout all of this.
The only time someone I commission would have anything to fear is if they do anything worthy of being posted to Artists Beware, as Fen has done.