[identity profile] thraxdelrreth.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
WHO: Samagthrav2 , Samagthrav3

WHERE: FurAffinity --> http://www.furaffinity.net/user/samagthrav2/ and http://www.furaffinity.net/user/samagthrav3 Both are his accounts.

WHAT: YCH auction I hosted.

WHEN: 2/1/2014 - 2/4/2014

EXPLAIN: I was hosting a $5 YCH auction a few days ago that ended 2/3/2014. I still have it posted up and you can see it on my FA is need be (WARNING IT IS NSFW!) On my submission, I posted a set of rules, as follows:

"YCH Spot is the male colored in blue! Picture will start off as a sketch, but if it goes past $25 dollars, i'll color it. If it goes past $50, i'll shade it and maybe even throw in a snazzy background!

YCH auction will be ending 2/3/2014 at 12 noon, Central US Time!

Be sure to read all the Rules and Info and details here! There's important stuff ya should know before bidding.


> Starting bid as well as all following bids are a minimum of $5
> Male only
> No cub/female/herm/shemale/baby/infant
> PLEASE Bid with confidence! Don't bid, then suddenly change your mind later. Serious bidders only!
> Reply in designated area below with your bid. If you want to outbid someone else, reply to THEM. Failure to do so will mean disqualification from YCH. Be fair with each other.
> Be nice to each other, have fun, and good luck! (To be sure you read this all, say "Boy Toy" in your reply if you are bidding. If you don't, your bid will be null and void until you've read the rules first. You only need to say it once!) "

Samagthrav2 made a $50 dollar bid. When the auction was over, he was the highest bidder and won. When I asked which character he wanted me to use, He said "I wasn't being serious about that bid! :D"
..and that was the last I heard from him.

Needless to say, if you host YCH auctions, beware of this guy and his alt account. He'll bid falsely on your auction and withdraw in the end.




MOD REQUEST

Date: 2014-02-11 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
Hi! I approved your post, but could you please insert an LJ-Cut (http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=75) in your post or turn your screencaps into links?

Thank you!

Date: 2014-02-12 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negawolfie.livejournal.com
This can reported to the admins due to the fact that false bids are against the rules. I've seen this happen before with one user who kept bidding on so many auctions in a day

Date: 2014-02-12 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teekchan.livejournal.com
I tried reporting someone who did this to me, and the staff told me they basically don;t care and won;t do anything because FA isnt an auction site.

Date: 2014-02-13 05:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] negawolfie.livejournal.com
._. wtf really? I reported a few people on FA for false bids who got banned with no question asked. That's messed up that an admin would push you off like that.

Date: 2014-02-12 04:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
Oh dear, I owe this person two commissions and I never knew they'd do something like that.. They are rather.. unusual.

They try to bargain with me to lower my prices a lot and I always refuse.. even as far to get me to go from $15 to ten cents... since some one on DA did sketches for 10 da points :/

Won't read my TOS and stuff. I'm thinking of cutting ties after I finish both commissions I owe just because i'm rather timid in general.

I think I remember them mentioning they greatly disliked YCH but i'd never think they'd do something like that.

Date: 2014-02-12 04:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
TEN POINTS?!

... and people try to look at me funny when I state I highly dislike their point system.

Date: 2014-02-12 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
On top of that if you use your commission widget they take like half of the points you earn or something. it's like 80 points for a dollar but with the widget its 100 points for a dollar if you buy a commission but you get less points if you buy directly from DA ?

Date: 2014-02-12 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exo-formicidae.livejournal.com
they take 20% yes. I dunno, for "advertising" or letting you use the widget or something. That is why many ask people to commission them through notes instead. Also I'm not sure if DA have the ability to transfer points back to $/paypal, but I think they wanted a fee for that too.

Date: 2014-02-12 11:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crazeetyger.livejournal.com
I do believe they wanted a fee to cover converting points over to PP. But I don't remember them taking anything if everything stayed as points, even using that stupid commission widget. I see that thing sometimes pop up in my messages from people I watch, and I get very sad. I also believe there is (or was) a cap on how much you could charge using the widget. I can't remember the exact amount, but I think it was less than $100.

Date: 2014-02-13 08:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
They also hold the points and or money for like 20 days or something.

Date: 2014-02-12 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gaturguts.livejournal.com
Honestly, if I was getting a person trying to haggle me down that low, I would block them commissioning me. It's super rude of them to try to get art for that low of a price.
Another red flag is the 'wont read my TOS'.
Toss them to the curb.

Date: 2014-02-12 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
They are really strange.. I think i'm going to do just that when I finish this last ink commission I owe them since i've already gotten pretty far on it.

I think they may have a crush on my Fursona as well and I've known them a few years ago and we started talking again recently.. The stories I have are rather odd..

Date: 2014-02-12 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
I think they may have a crush on my Fursona as well and I've known them a few years ago and we started talking again recently.. The stories I have are rather odd...

That's kind of somewhat creepy. Though I could have sworn I heard about this person on DA before and I've been on there since 2004.

Date: 2014-02-12 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
They do have a DA account as well

Date: 2014-02-12 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
I thought so. I could've sworn I've heard of this person somewhere before on DA as well.

Date: 2014-02-12 06:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sacch.livejournal.com


Refund them and head for the freaking hills. That is UNBELIEVABLE.

Date: 2014-02-12 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
I wish I had at the time haha... They payed full price for the two they bought off of me before christmas and i'm almost done with them any way. I don't have the money on me any more so once the art is posted I don't think i'll be talking to them any longer..

Date: 2014-02-12 07:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelen.livejournal.com
I have to agree. If they've paid, refund and cancel. If they haven't paid, cancel.

Date: 2014-02-12 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
I don't have the money any longer but thankfully i'm almost done with the second half of their commission so i'll post it and just block them or something afterward.

Date: 2014-02-12 08:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thaily.livejournal.com
This guy doesn't seem to have any respect for anyone O_o

Ten cents, jeesh..

Date: 2014-02-12 05:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
Yeah.. It really broke my self esteem and I really should have ended it at that.

Date: 2014-02-18 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saeto15.livejournal.com
yeah, i did a commission for them a few years ago and it was constant haggling and acting like they didn't remember how much they agreed to pay. we did the sketch first with the option to do colour later, and after i coloured it they tried to imply the colour wasn't worth what they agreed to. definitely want to avoid this person.

Date: 2014-02-18 01:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] king-giga.livejournal.com
They still do that and did that to me. Which is why I refuse to take payments after sketches since it's not worth the trouble. They always tried to haggle me as well

Date: 2014-02-12 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pinkpuppybelly.livejournal.com
Well that's just awful :c

Date: 2014-02-13 11:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laini.livejournal.com
Seen this guy do this at least 3 times before. Shame they are still at it.

Date: 2014-03-14 07:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cody mekale (from livejournal.com)
He also likes to hire artists and then insult them. He will make other accounts to do so, like he did with me on Furaffinity.

I have a journal about it on my account.
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/modifiedrabbit

Another account he has made is http://www.furaffinity.net/user/goldengun

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