[identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware

WHO: https://www.furaffinity.net/user/clarityangeldragon/, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/eraviadragonfly/, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/Roxanna/, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/pixenvixen/, http://www.furaffinity.net/user/skypropony

WHERE: FurAffinity.net

WHAT: Digital YCH auction that was traced

WHEN: 6/20/2014

PROOF: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0q78lkqvvmnw9v6/FireShot%20Screen%20Capture%20%23040%20-%20%27TCBY%20by%20ClarityAngelDragon%20--%20Fur%20Affinity%20%5Bdot%5D%20net%27%20-%20www_furaffinity_net_view_13769477_%23cid_84313695.png

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3l1c8uhphnorw4b/FireShot%20Screen%20Capture%20%23041%20-%20%27Userpage%20of%20clarityangeldragon%20--%20Fur%20Affinity%20%5Bdot%5D%20net%27%20-%20www_furaffinity_net_user_clarityangeldragon.png

Original image; http://puu.sh/9EyrP/2ecf3723c9.jpg
http://puu.sh/9Eyu1/c0f812b70b.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/1z1a5vd.jpg - This was a layover she posted on her own to prove she didn't trace, it's since been removed.

Image provided by the tracer as the original image she attempted to make money from; http://theperfectpose.com/HowToPose/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/bride-alone-poses-1.jpg

New, closer overlay provided by a member of the community, showing the tracer's overlay was skewed and warped in her 'evidence', and the image is in fact, very traced, at minimum very heavily referenced without citing the source on the original auction to begin with; https://www.dropbox.com/s/gem52e82kbk0jil/trace.png

EXPLAIN: I happened across this image while browsing, looking through her gallery, and the image itself, it's clearly traced. I commented as you can see above asking the artist to cite her source, and the image was replaced with the above overlay as 'proof' she didn't trace. This artist attempted to trace a photograph for monetary gain, and should be avoided.

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(frozen)

Date: 2014-06-23 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cani lupine (from livejournal.com)
You refuse to furnish proof of threats because they do not exist. Stop lying. I authorize you to post my PMs to Kayla. There were no threats contained in any of them. Stop the slander now.

(frozen) MOD NOTICE

Date: 2014-06-23 05:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oceandezignz.livejournal.com
You're hurting yourself more than helping.

Stop.

Ban.

Evading.

Date: 2014-06-23 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] norsepaw.livejournal.com
Wow, things have heated up since yesterday. I dont think Claritys friends are helping her either in this O___o

Date: 2014-06-23 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] celestinaketzia.livejournal.com
Friends rarely help the situation.

Date: 2014-06-23 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritlobo.livejournal.com
They made the entire situation so much worse - Clarity's behavior wasn't fantastic and their situation wasn't great, but had their friends not decided to throw mud every-which-way, this probably could have been handled and done with by now. Instead, they entire situation blew up and might have cost Clarity a fair bit in their reputation.

What a mess.

Date: 2014-06-23 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trentxandrew.livejournal.com
I still don't understand how someone can intemperate this group as a "hate blog" with massive "drama and trolling" when everything said is just advice with links to more advice. The only drama I ever see are the bewared person and their friends.

Date: 2014-06-23 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spytdragonfyre.livejournal.com
If this is a hate blog then I think I have the wrong definition of what a hate blog is.

I'm curious about that people she said were harassing her and her friends. How many people have enough time or care that much about this to go bother someone about it?

(frozen) Proof of outright lies by A_B administration.

Date: 2014-06-23 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] michael herman (from livejournal.com)
To be clear, this is not about this beware post. This is about lies and false accusations made by the lead moderator of this page. Since they refuse to furnish proof of "threats," I will provide evidence of their lies.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/SirFratley/screenshot-wwwlivejournalcom2014-06-2316-43-14_zps87628bf6.png

Not once in this did I make any sort of threat or any hostile remark. I demand a public apology from Kayla_na for her libelous claims.

Stop.

Lying.

Now.

(frozen) Re: Proof of outright lies by A_B administration.

Date: 2014-06-23 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
I am going to leave this up (but frozen). I don't entirely understand what you think it proves to help you, as I stand by everything said in those PMs.

(frozen) Re: Proof of outright lies by A_B administration.

Date: 2014-06-23 09:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Oh, and I just noticed you were very careful to not include the rest of our conversation for full context. So I will include it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dl5iwf4wiq60hlr/2014-06-23_1405.png and https://www.dropbox.com/s/33guunx760ww5sa/2014-06-23_14082.png (He sent two PMs after I asked him to cease contact, which is why they are separated).
Edited Date: 2014-06-23 09:16 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-23 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] val !! (from livejournal.com)
this beware isn't even about the trace(??)/failure to cite sources anymore, it's a very valid warning about this user's behavior and the behavior of her associates. avoiding each and every one. this has been blown way out of proportion and into something else entirely.

Date: 2014-06-23 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
For the record, I spoke to Clarity herself via Furaffinity PMs last night and she was actually fairly reasonable. I am not sure if she has informed her friends that that conversation happened, however. But she handled it much better than her friends have, at this point, who are carrying on a fight Clarity herself appears to have dropped (as far as I know, at least).

Date: 2014-06-23 10:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] val !! (from livejournal.com)
well that's pretty upsetting :( the crusade being waged here is definitely not helping matters. i will redirect my avoidance to those still carrying on, then!

Date: 2014-06-23 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrano-tiggs.livejournal.com
Looking at Clarity's journals on FA, she seems to have taken on board what you said and even described you as a sweetheart and the reason she won't report AB for now. I'll try and get screens :)

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From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com - Date: 2014-06-23 10:59 pm (UTC) - Expand

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From: [identity profile] tyrano-tiggs.livejournal.com - Date: 2014-06-23 11:08 pm (UTC) - Expand

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From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com - Date: 2014-06-23 11:10 pm (UTC) - Expand

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From: [identity profile] sapphistscot.livejournal.com - Date: 2014-06-24 12:02 am (UTC) - Expand

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From: [identity profile] trentxandrew.livejournal.com - Date: 2014-06-24 12:05 am (UTC) - Expand

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(frozen)

Date: 2014-06-23 10:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] canilupine (from livejournal.com)
You made claims that I was "threatening" and "hostile" with my first two messages, and you still have yet to prove your original libelous claim. Yes, I was condescending and rude, and that was a direct result of your false accusations.

So, thank you for proving me right, and that this group's dishonest leadership undermines the integrity of the group as a whole. Instead of taking a passive "send me screenshots and I'll ban them" approach to off-site harassment, you should be proactively monitoring the pages of those who are posted about to make sure they are not being harassed, since the issue of off-site harassment is well-known. As the lead moderator, that falls under your responsibility. The fact that you also allow members to make additional accusations unrelated to the Beware (such as faking harassment to attempt to gain sympathy) says a lot about what kind of a person you are.

Since you have failed to live up to your responsibilities and continue to allow the group to be a conduit for harassment, I demand you step down or delete the group.
Edited Date: 2014-06-23 10:37 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-23 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tyrano-tiggs.livejournal.com
Tbh, this became less a beware on Clarity and more a beware on a certain someone who keeps ban evading.

Date: 2014-06-23 11:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragontripmon.livejournal.com
At this point i am surprised he has not been banned from LJ yet due to these evasions which are not helping him at all.

Date: 2014-06-23 11:11 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-06-23 11:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timelapsedecay.livejournal.com
The only thing I *really* learned from this is that Cani has literally nothing better to do with their time
I'm so sorry your post was hijacked by someone so bitter, op. I dunno if I've seen someone act so immaturely on here, and that's really saying something.

Date: 2014-06-24 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-fox-demon.livejournal.com
Oh my goodness...this all kinda got out of hand, it seems. I do agree that if they feel their life is in danger due to threats from users on this site, they should, by all means, contact the police and show them screenshots from the offenders. However, as a sibling of a police officer, it should probably be noted that they would have no legal grounds to take action against the site as a whole; those of us who have not broken the ToS of the site by harassing users shouldn't be held accountable for those who did.

I feel like this could have all been resolved easily, had the artist simply kept her cool. She already admitted to heavy referencing; she was only denying the out-right tracing. All that was asked for was for her to actually mention in future drawings if she did so, and credit the source of her references. I just hope it's a lesson learned and this will all sort itself out...yikes.

Date: 2014-06-24 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yuki-fox-demon.livejournal.com
I completely didn't realize there was a second page here, so I didn't see Kayla's post about how the artist was able to understand what exactly was being said and has calmed down. So I apologize, since it seems my comment is rather unneeded ^^;

Date: 2014-06-24 05:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cdemonkam.livejournal.com
I feel, at this point, that a beware may be warranted about Canis given their attitude and general handling of things.

Cani

Date: 2014-11-08 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gabby ala bacon (from livejournal.com)
I know this is like...super late...but I feel like this post itself helped me see him for who he really truly is.

He wanted to be "friends" with me recently and brought up he is willing to come where I live (repeatedly) because he is interested in me.

He is very persistent and now I have seen his true colours through this post....he has been blocked.

THANK YOU TO THE MODS FOR KEEPING HIS COMMENTS UP*****

Date: 2014-06-29 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jemindra.livejournal.com
To stay on topic on who the original beware was on...

Yes, I do believe that is tracing, the gown lines up perfectly. Don't understand why people feel the need to think that this is okay when it's not. Beware well warranted.
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