FA Artist heads up

[cerari.livejournal.com]

First time posting here, but after stumbling onto this user's journal I thought a heads up to this community might not be a bad idea.

User is JinDragonWolf (http://www.furaffinity.net/user/jindragowolf/) - they posted a journal about how they may cancel their current commissions since they have been taking so long and "not feeling up to them", and then start over with higher prices to get a Wacom. Oh, and they can't afford to give refunds at this time either.

Journal : http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1357331/

Screencap of the journal under the cut :





If I made any errors in posting this, please let me know! I checked the community info and don't think I broke any rules...

Comments

[meleeisgood.livejournal.com]

I guess it's better than stringing people along, but still, telling people straight out that they aren't offering even a partial refund for the people who've paid them for a commission? Not cool, dude, not cool. Bet they're going to have some pissed off people on their hands soon.

And looking at the comments on the journal, yeah, they've already pissed some people off. Way to go.

[bigbluefox.livejournal.com]

Wait...

... did she really cancel all the commissions, tell people they won't get their money back because she needs to buy stuff, and then asks for new, more pricy commissions in one post? O.o

This is pretty.... interesting.

[azuredoragon.livejournal.com]

it's a guy.

[zackfig.livejournal.com]

That's quite some chutzpah actually!

[foxhack.livejournal.com]

BALLS OF STEEL.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

Am I the only one here that saw the word "yet", as in they will be refunding? /shrug

[pandemic-panic.livejournal.com]

No, I saw it too. The post seemed to imply that they wanted to square things away, but weren't able to yet. However, I think this would have gone over better if they had just privately messaged each of the people who commissioned them and explained things, rather than just post a nonchalant journal.

[cerari.livejournal.com]

Agreed with the above posters - the journal comes off as "eh, maybe I'll get around to it" which I don't think will sit well with the commissioners. I hope everyone gets a refund and this was just a poorly worded journal...

[lastres0rt.livejournal.com]

Even refunded, how dick is it to reject a batch of commissions and then turn right around to offer the exact same commissions for more money?

I mean, I've raised rates a few times too, but if I've got any current orders still going when I do, I still honor 'em at the grandfathered-in rate.

[sigilgoat.livejournal.com]

Be sure to post a trouble ticket to admins about this!

[chrisdragon.livejournal.com]

This.

[muzz.livejournal.com]

The guy doesn't intend on NOT giving money back, he says he can't refund 'yet' at this time. I don't see a problem with this :0

[spiffystuff.livejournal.com]

XD well at the least it's pretty tactless/bad advertising to basically say "well I can't finish my old commissions, and I'll get around to refunding you some time, hey who wants a more expensive commission?" XD

It's basically like asking "hey, can I hold some money for you?"

[underthebed.livejournal.com]

This is utterly disgraceful. "Yet?" So what, a month from now they'll refund the money? Two? Longer?

When you take someone's money to do art you owe that person honesty and should you be unable to compete the work you were hired for, you need to refund that $ immediately. You do NOT need to use that and other money to buy something for yourself. Complete bullocks.

I am embarrassed on behalf of freelance artists.

[blackberrypie.livejournal.com]

You know I can understand wanting a new tablet and not having any money and wanting to take commissions to be able to get one.. But for goodness sakes.. At least if you're gonna cancel commissions, take the new ones and pay back the ones you canceled FIRST before you buy yourself a new shiny toy. That or just buckle down and complete the others before taking new ones and THEN get your tablet. Ugh I hate people that do stuff like this.

But yeah that's just my opinion.

[torinir2.livejournal.com]

This. Completely.

[actonrf.livejournal.com]

" At least if you're gonna cancel commissions, take the new ones and pay back the ones you canceled FIRST before you buy yourself a new shiny toy."

To pay those by taking in new income is called a ponzi scam.

[hamburger.livejournal.com]

It's my policy not to actually spend the money I get from commissions until the commission itself is finished.

I realize that not everyone has that luxury, I don't live on commissions, but when you get down to the cold, hard truth of it all? The fact that you run out of money to refund is not the buyer's problem. They completed their end of the bargain. Now, it's polite for them to give you some time to collect money to refund them, but they're not obligated to be polite. Especially when you can't even give a window in which they can expect to refunded.

I hate to say it, but in the furry community artists get MUCH more slack than they really should sometimes.

[kurenaipaladin.livejournal.com]

"I hate to say it, but in the furry community artists get MUCH more slack than they really should sometimes."

They also often work for less than minimum wage. You get what you pay for. Not to say that excuses some of the antics... after all you set your own prices, but it's like the difference between getting McDonald's and going to a fancy resturant. If these people were to pay actual industry prices then I'm sure there would be far less of these issues, because teh people that produce the art would be professionals- literally- and would be able to be taken to small claims if they DIDN'T produce the work they wished. But if you're out 25 bucks, then it's kind of like "oh well better luck next time".

[terridelgado.livejournal.com]

Weird. The artist claims to have lost interest in doing the furry commissions as a partial reasoning for not finishing them.

But if you pay ten bucks more that interest will suddenly return? (Not the price said, no price was mentioned at all but an "increase" was. So I am thorwing ten out there figuratively.)

I dunno. I understand both sides here. I just think that using "Loss of interest" in finishing work then upping the prices for the same work (furry art) is a little messed up.

I cannot just "lose interest" haflway through lettering a book and then tell my boss if she pays me 50 bucks more per book I'll have my interest back. That'd get me fired along with a good bitching out.

[terridelgado.livejournal.com]

Let me rephrase.

"Don't feel up for it"-- I translated that as loss of interest. Thats the comment I am getting at.

[chrisdragon.livejournal.com]

I think Jin is just bullshitting to get people off his back.

[lilenth.livejournal.com]

Wow, some people just shouldn't be taking commissions at all. Once you're paid, you do the work even if you don't "feel" like it, that's what professionals do.

[mel-the-hybrid.livejournal.com]

^ this

[darkredlion.livejournal.com]

It's funny. "I took all your money, I'm not paying back yet cause I want a Wacom4. Oh and by the way, I'm raising my comissions..."

Like hell I'm gonna comission you after you did, asshat!

[zucadragon.livejournal.com]

He posted a new journal: http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/1359534/

[puppetmaker40.livejournal.com]

Thank you for posting this and I suggest everyone give it a read.

Sounds like it was one of those moment of passion things that he now regrets putting out here on the Internet.