[identity profile] veeveedesu.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
Hello,

I've commissioned the plushie maker, Aurasoul over two years ago requesting for a plushie for my boyfriend's birthday to be done sometime during August 2008, hoping it would be done and shipped by October 21, 2008. I had paid her upfront for the plushie as seen here ( http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k428/88_69_01/paypalscreenshot.jpg ).

After I had sent her payment, she promised to send me images sometime that week of the WIP. Good, great. I waited, and a week had gone by without any word from her. I politely send her a note asking about the WIP images and leave it be for a few weeks. Weeks start going by, and she has yet to reply to my notes. Ironically, she stops replying to me shortly after she confirmed on getting her payment.
( http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k428/88_69_01/aurasoul1.jpg )

As time goes on without word from her, I noticed that she has added artwork to her favorites within the time I was sending her notes. This had bothered me, so I logged into a very old DA account of mine and sent her a note asking if her commissions were open still. She replied 'depends on what you want' within 24 hours. ( http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k428/88_69_01/aurasoul2.jpg )

Notice the date on the screen shot. Dec 2, 2008. I had paid her in August. I had received no word on my commission during that time. My friend later then sent her a note asking about my plushie, and Aura at the time had claimed that she had finished the plushie and just needed my address. Fine, good. I still hadn't received images of the plushie, but at least I was getting it.

So after waiting quite a few months my boyfriend and I were fed up, seeing as the package had not shown up at all. While looking though her favorites, she had been doing trades with others as well as more commissions. After noting one of the people who had done a trade with her, I discovered they received their part of the trade while I was still in the dark with no images or no plushie. At this point of time I began accusing Aura of thief on her comments page on DA. Not too long after doing this, she was banned for posting dog porn without a mature tag repeatedly. I was quite frustrated, until she contacted me on a separate DA account, finally providing me a WIP image of my plushie. This is was around in April, 7 months after I had originally commissioned her. I was annoyed, but happy to finally see images, so I let it go, giving her my address once more.

After waiting again for quite some time, the account on DA she used to show me the images was banned, so I had no way to contact her asking if she had sent my plushie. I managed to get a hold of someone who directed me to a German furry site where she was active on and sent her a note and waited. Nothing. However, I saw she was active on the forums, while she took on more commissions. After I had posted there informing I had never received my plushie and all the drama I had with her, she had cursed me out and accused me it was my fault for not paying for tracking, and my package had gotten lost. I asked her for a scan of the receipt proving she had shipped it, nothing.

( http://forum.furbase.de/thread.php?threadid=27966&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=3639&page=6 )

A few months later, she noted me that she had made a second plushie for me since the first one had gotten lost, and would send it to me if I gave her the money for shipping. $20 without tracking and $50 with. She had sent me no images of the new plushie. I had no way of paying for the shipping at that time, so I informed her I would do it later. During this time, I had thought over about this situation and decided against giving her the money for shipping. Quite frankly, I was done dealing with her. And I didn't want the plushie to be 'lost' again, but $50 on top of the original $80 I had paid was ridiculous at this point of time. Plus, how did I know if she really did ship it out or not? What if there really was no second plushie? I had no idea.

After the situation with Fuzzypaws and her, I made it clear that I was done doing business with her and wanted her banned for her poor commission ethics on FA. I haven't talked to her since.

Today, I received this comment on my page;

'wanna see on stream how i destroy the second plushie i made?you never belived that its existing there you can see^^'

I've commissioned her nearly two years ago, at this point of time, I've given up on getting the plushie, and I have left her alone. She claims that she would never do commissions for people over the sea anymore, but still. Please don't commission this person unless you want to deal with a headache and drama.

Edit: Screenshot of her comment ( http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k428/88_69_01/wowbetchmove.png )

Date: 2010-08-12 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
She should have eaten the shipping cost for the second plushie. It isn't your problem she lost the first one, and to demand you pay more is nothing short of unethical business.

Today, I received this comment on my page;

'wanna see on stream how i destroy the second plushie i made?you never belived that its existing there you can see^^'


And WOW. How spiteful. Please take that comment and send it to Dragoneer in a note, he's supposed to be keeping an eye on her, I believe.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Do you and your boyfriend happen to have reference sheets for your characters?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Huh, interesting. What species is he?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snobahr.livejournal.com
If I read this correctly, you never saw a photo of the finished, allegedly "lost" plushie. I'm willing to bet that the "lost" plushie never existed, and she blew monkeys out of her butt.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobekiyoshi.livejournal.com
Is there any way you can screen cap the last comment about destroying your plushie? Its not that I believe you, but I just want to see if she really just stooped that low on a public site.

Thanks for the warning, sorry this happened to you, but you made the right decision in the end.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobekiyoshi.livejournal.com
Sorry my comment is supposed to say It's not that I don't believe you ****** Very sorry for that horrible typo. ^^;

Date: 2010-08-12 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadaria.livejournal.com
Are all these people trolling your page?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kadaria.livejournal.com
Ah ok, just checking. I saw the slut comment and was wondering if she set minions on you.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobekiyoshi.livejournal.com
When you take a screen cap of this, please put it up in your post, I know people will LOVE to see this.

I knew the name sounded familiar. AuraSoul /from what I have read/seen of her/ is known for being openly nasty like that. Thank you so much for the link, and again, I'm sorry you had to deal with her.

You'd think of all the posts here she would be banned from everything by now. x_x

Date: 2010-08-12 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] genkigami.livejournal.com
Today, I received this comment on my page;

'wanna see on stream how i destroy the second plushie i made?you never belived that its existing there you can see^^'


Mods... please forgive me for what I'm about to say but...

WHAT. THE. FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK.

That's just plain MEAN. What about the first plush? I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say it never existed and now she's just trying to be mean and rub it in your face.

Isn't this the same person who said "I'm not going to refund anyone or do your commissions, up yours, commissioners" or something?

Date: 2010-08-12 07:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snobahr.livejournal.com
Yup. Click on her tag at the bottom of the entry, and see the various posts about her.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Heh, cursing is fine, we're not PG-13 here or anything! We just don't want people cursing at each other, if we can help it.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] growly.livejournal.com
Wow, that's unbelievable. I am really sorry this happened to ya! Hope you didn't pay that much. :(

Date: 2010-08-12 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tobekiyoshi.livejournal.com
According to the links to their paypal, they paid $80 x_x Just think if they paid the $50+ more for the second.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellonwye.livejournal.com
Tell her that yes, you would like to see a stream of her destroying this second plushie. Tell her to let you know the time and the date so you can check it out. Then tell her afterwards that since she destroyed your product she now owes you a refund.

I'm saying this because I very, very much doubt she made a second plushie at all, and if she then doesn't go ahead with this spiteful stream it pretty much confirms that. Basically just call her bluff. It might not get your money back but it'll probably shut her up.

Date: 2010-08-12 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellonwye.livejournal.com
Hmm does it block notes too? Could you get someone else to ask her about when she'll be streaming this plushie destruction?

I'm looking at her Livestream page and the last one is August 2nd, so she's either full of shit or hasn't done it yet. My money's on the former.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cesarin.livejournal.com
pretty sure that, blocking prevents everything from the target.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
There's a 'loophole' in that you can comment on the page of someone whose blocked you if you reply to a comment someone ELSE leaves on the page, but doing so will get you in trouble since it's basically an exploit.

Date: 2010-08-12 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blackberrypie.livejournal.com
Thats horrible. That last comment.. I just can't believe someone would post that. :(

Date: 2010-08-12 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lilenth.livejournal.com

Notify Dragoneer since he already told her that if she didn't refund people's commissions after she cancelled them he was going to ban her. Perhaps getting kicked off of FA will get her to act professional for once.

Date: 2010-08-13 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maryseif.livejournal.com
Unfortunetly I seem to remember her purposefully removing red text from her profile and saying something along the lines of "getting banned would only be beneficial to me" so I don't think getting banned will change her attitude at all.

People like this don't learn from their mistakes =(

Date: 2010-08-12 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexds1.livejournal.com
Wow, thats really awful. I'm glad you decided not to pay that extra cost, and I hope you eventually get some kind of refund!

Date: 2010-08-13 02:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinmaxwell.livejournal.com
"'wanna see on stream how i destroy the second plushie i made?you never belived that its existing there you can see^^'"

what...the..FUCK. That ain't right. This girl needs to get banned or in some sort of trouble, seriously. I'm sorry this has happened to you.

Date: 2010-08-13 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunhawk.livejournal.com
Wow that last part was just spiteful and nasty, I'm sorry it went down that way :///

Date: 2010-08-13 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marus-puppy.livejournal.com
Whooooooooooa. That's totally unreasonable. And I checked out some of the older warnings on her too.

I think I saw a few days ago that a commissioner took legal action against an artist for some pretty nasty harassment. Maybe you could do the same? Sue for the 80 bucks that she owes you for not delivering the plushie.

Date: 2010-08-13 05:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marus-puppy.livejournal.com
Ah, yeah, too true. The other person had a problem with an artist in Canada and was considering taking her to small claims court, which may have been a lot easier than if you were to do the same for someone on another continent...

That's a real shame, I'm sorry. :(

Date: 2010-08-14 07:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murdercrow.livejournal.com
You don't really need to hire a lawyer, though. Small claims court is designed to be easy to deal with, IIRC all you need is 20 bucks for the filing fee.

Getting the other person to show up, however...

Date: 2010-08-13 07:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frazzled-niya.livejournal.com
=\ what a noodle....Is the ban on her DevART account recent or something new?
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