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[rosequoll.livejournal.com]

I've got to make my first post here, because I'm bluntly appalled at the nerve of someone that I've been dealing with tonight.

I was offered a 1GB CompactFlash card (Lexar, good quality) by mix_hyenataur in exchange for some fursuit items. He claimed that the card was worth over $100-170 and that he wanted a trade equal to that amount with a discount. I looked up the cost online and I can currently purchase that *exact card* for $95, which I informed him, and offered him $115 worth of fursuit items and free shipping in trade for the card, which I think is more than generous.

I was told that I only cared about myself, that I should appreciate the "thought that counts" and that I wasn't losing money so why should it matter.

Just a warning, to any professional artists out there or people who run respectable businesses. I'm going to suggest steering far clear of this guy. He obviously does not respect the work that goes into what we do, and feels that he should get more than he's "paying" for.

Not worth the time, so there's a warning in advance for you.

Edit: I should add that he told me I charged too much (which in honesty, I charge less than or equal to most, and it works out to a horrible hourly rate, honestly) and that if he made the offer to anyone else they'd appreciate his generosity and jump at the offer.

=/

Comments

[fierycatthing.livejournal.com]

Augh, that's horrible. I saw your post about that offer, you were being far more than generous, I honestly wish I could have taken you up on it.

And on a slightly different note, it's not the "thought that counts" when it comes to business. Business is business, it is not personal, and he had no right to complain or tell you how he feels about your prices. If he doesn't like them, then he could move on and find someone else. But the fact is, your prices for fursuit pieces are very fair for the quality you work at.

~RedFeather

[xianjaguar.livejournal.com]

He's also the guy that refuses to let artists sign their work. He will demand you remove your signature from your art if he is to buy it. It's really weird.

I've seen him interact with others online...I say, steer clear.

[rosequoll.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I realized after the first e-mail he sent me who he was and was like "oh snap, this isn't going to be pleasant".

I've basically told him to kindly "bugger off" and leave me be, and that I don't appreciate his self rightous attitude. A bit over the top for me, but he really rubbed my fur the wrong way.

[wyna-hiros.livejournal.com]

You offered items/service that was more than the card's price. I don't see where he has any room to talk.

Is this the same guy who bitched about artists daring to sign their work?

[shinmaxwell.livejournal.com]

I never have liked this guy. I'd steer clear for sure.

as for you...you were being far more than generous...seriously..

[rosequoll.livejournal.com]

Yes, same guy. And I'm really weirded out. He thinks that because he bought the card two years ago for more money that he can try to get me to give him equal value to what he spent then??

Oi. -.-

[armaina.livejournal.com]

Pfft you're not loosing any money? yeah right. Because you know, obviously you make fabric, foam and other material appear out of thin air *rolls eyes*
I've seen a lot of his posts, and honestly, I don't trust him. (I also think this sob story (http://www.livejournal.com/community/artists_beware/55760.html) is an utter lie, and ploy to get people to feel sorry for him. >_>)
he also seems to go around trying to befriend very talented artists in an attempt to get free art.

Also, side note
does anyone knoe if he actually MADE an icon for the icon exchange a while back? He never did show proof of it >_>

[neo53.livejournal.com]

laughs~ You people need to read his recient LJ post. Its about the cards he offered to Rose Quoll...and at the bottom of his post, he hs the nerve [or should I say stupidity] to say the following...

"(Now 'as trade' cuz I figure no one else knows about the 'always give more than you get' rule other than me. Just stating, no offense

~rolls around on the floor~ OH PLEASE!

[famira.livejournal.com]

Wtf? Details!

[rosequoll.livejournal.com]

(off topic but I love your character design. It is great and makes me unexplainably happy. I just thought you should know. I think it's the spots and the snaggle-tooth)

And yeah, he originally e-mailed me and just plain offered it to me, no mention of a trade or anything. I thought this was weird, so I kinda poked it along, offering thank you art (and if he had been for real, it wouldn' have been a cheapo 20 minutes sketch either, but that's besides the point), and then he freaked at me. Amusing, and even moreso...

creepy. Slightly...offkilter I'd say.

[armaina.livejournal.com]

http://www.livejournal.com/community/artists_beware/54917.html

right thar!
really fishy was being REALLY nice too.
(it really gets me how he acts so demanding then says "we're still friends right?")

[mix-hyenataur.livejournal.com]

I paid $200 for the card back then. I'm not going to let this slide for $95 when your work is the same as other top artists and a bit overpriced by my veiws.

I work 20 hours for $95. 40 for $200.

Buy it somewhere else then. I will buy less costly fursuit stuff as well from others.

oh gawd, you seriously are going to whine about this publicly.

You bitched me out when i asked for more than 'gift art' in the beginning, asking for a mere friendship and a paws/tail commishion later on when I'm feeling less ill.

I'm not hassling you. Matter of fact, i was trying to help you out in the beginning. You're just being a snob, thinking you are better.

Drop the attitude, because I don't have one at my end.

[mix-hyenataur.livejournal.com]

The link to your website in that entry was broken, so I don't know what your art or fursuits is like. I've never heard of you. So that's why I rated you with the general moderation of a price/quality range.

No offense.

[drake-anaya.livejournal.com]

While I do want you to be able to freely express your side of the story, please keep personal attacks somewhere else.

[armaina.livejournal.com]

Prices DROP, you can't sell it back to ANYONE and get it for the price you bought it, the world doesn't work like that. Money or Goods, doesn't matter.

and if her work overpriced, why'd you even bother trying to do a trade?

Friendships do not require a trade of goods.

[rosequoll.livejournal.com]

"no offense"

[mix-hyenataur.livejournal.com]

Sorry Rose.

[kappyjeanne.livejournal.com]

second'd. thats exactly what I was about to say...

[mix-hyenataur.livejournal.com]

Doesn't economy suck?

[moonstone-wind.livejournal.com]

ugh some people kicks em

[wyna-hiros.livejournal.com]

It was $200 back then. I don't see how it's suddenly Rose Quoll's responsbility on that matter: she's going by the price of it now, and what she could technically get for it in today's prices.

I also don't see how her post is whining: it seems like a very legimitimate warning to the rest of the artists watching the community. *shrug*

[armaina.livejournal.com]

nope, I rather like economy.

[lilenth.livejournal.com]

Man, you're just going out of your way to be abrasive, this post will not win you any friends. You do realise you're not just paying for the materials but also for her experience and skill in making fursuits as well? I doubt you'll find my better fursuit artists around.

It doesn't matter what the card WAS, it's only worth what it costs now second hand since it IS second hand. You wouldn't take it to a store and get $200 in exchange for it.

[mix-hyenataur.livejournal.com]

I didn't know her price range on her stuff. The link provided was broken. Yes, I did incentively decline when she stated her paws were $150. Overpriced indeed.

Rose, just go buy it for $95.

[lilenth.livejournal.com]

*my = many