[identity profile] grygon.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware
I had hoped that this next weekend I would post a "resolved" post but when I got home from my aunt's funeral tonight I found this message in my inbox:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6110810725/sizes/o/in/photostream/

She refers to a bad-dealings thread on taxidermy.net where the only new message I had posted in reply since posting here and getting to see this dispute nearly resolved was a link to her artists-beware post, pointing out how she had reacted to it. That was going to be my last post concerning her, plus the resolution post when I did get my plush. It seems the post was removed, and I have a few PMs on those forums urging me to post my warning again as my own warning, and not Bob's (I had only been replying to his post about his bad dealings with her to share my own).

Then I found this beauty:
(eta: gender slurs and threats of physical violence in link)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6116827145/sizes/o/in/photostream/
the top thread is from her fanpage on facebook and the very bottom of that image is from taxidermy.net. At the top she mentions giving me a day or so, and in her facebook PM the only thing she asks for is me removing my posts.

The images explain themselves, I think, but as I suspect from my first post on her:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/502139.html
her local fans are up in arms.

I am unsure what to do at this point. Thoughts?


ETA: Rereading that thread, I do want to clarify the "stay at home artist with no kids" comment that gets mentioned about the other forum as it seems to be lost on some critics: I meant that she was just a stay at home artist, and could not use kids as a valid reason for not working as that would be an understandable reason to me.

ETA2: Re: "wasn't allowed in skullgrrl's group" message below (frozen by mods, due to insults), I was a member and left of my own freewill for personal reasons and then got harassed for it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6118557424/sizes/o/in/photostream/

ETA3: so after being temp-banned here for her behavior, she posts this:
http://furhideandbone.livejournal.com/1270163.html
She makes some untrue statements in the comments as well as the main post, though that should be obvious to everyone by now. If there is a comment or statement she made that you want my side to just let me know. She does mention that I apologized to her here in the comments for some reason but I did not do that, at all, as can be seen.

ETA4: she deleted that post on furhideandbone. It got to around 40 comments (that I have saved via email if they're needed for whatever reason), mostly of people telling her to cool off. She deleted it and reposted this:
http://furhideandbone.livejournal.com/1270627.html
So here is a screen cap of the "witch hunt" she deleted from there:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6119512262/sizes/o/in/photostream/

ETA5: I'm in the coffee shop now with nyaro and have picked up the plushie. Plushie-wise, this issue is resolved now. I'm in love all over again, it's like when I first got Babette who is my favorite ever.

Date: 2011-09-05 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breakspire.livejournal.com
No, I don't agree with the language she used. I just wanted to mention here that grygon has slandered people before, in case that's what she did to skullgrrl.

Date: 2011-09-05 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bridgeportcat.livejournal.com
It also doesn't matter how slandered she is, she's threatening to physically beat up Grygon as well. There's NO reason to ever react like this unless your actual life is being threatened. I'm really disgusted with her behaviour and I'm surprised anyone is trying to defend her actions right now. I certainly don't want to ever work with someone who will threaten to beat me up if the trade goes south :/

Date: 2011-09-05 11:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritlobo.livejournal.com
This really isn't the place to do it: you should make a formal post, if you have your proof and your info all ready.

And, as much as I hate to say this, it wouldn't be fair to you if I didn't: just posting it here really makes you seem like one of skullgrrl's "minions" out to disprove and show how bad grygon is. I'm sure you don't mean that, and I really hope that didn't sound bitchy in anyway: you deserve to have your story shown as much as anyone else.

Date: 2011-09-05 11:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notorious_hunty.livejournal.com
This. White-knighting makes you look even dumber than the person in question.

Date: 2011-09-05 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Please refrain from insults like that.

Date: 2011-09-06 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notorious_hunty.livejournal.com
Sorry if it came off like that, but it's the truth. This person was already going down the deep end as it is, and the person defending them or whatever is just being dragged along with it. :/

Date: 2011-09-06 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kayla-la.livejournal.com
Just better ways to say it than 'dumber', you know? We try to avoid that kind of thing here, feel free to be honest but it can be done without insults.

Date: 2011-09-06 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritlobo.livejournal.com
Off topic, but that icon is beautiful!

Date: 2011-09-06 12:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notorious_hunty.livejournal.com
Shanoa is THE SHIT! :3

Date: 2011-09-06 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breakspire.livejournal.com
seriously?

I hardly know skullgrrl. I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt because I've been through some stuff with grygon, so I thought it was worth mentioning. I thought maybe skullgrrl would cool off and come back at this rationally, like I did in the same situation.

Honestly I wish I hadn't posted anything because of how she's reacted, but that hardly makes me "dumb".

Date: 2011-09-06 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notorious_hunty.livejournal.com
Well, you wouldn't have ended up looking bad if you would've just let skullgirl deal with the beware. What you went through with grygon has nothing to do with what's going on NOW. :/ Sorry, but you came of as defending her when she further ruined her reputation with her reactions.

Date: 2011-09-06 02:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ocelotish
I think you're reading too much into this. It's very common for people here to chime in with their own experiences with either the OP or the person mentioned in the beware, positive or negative. In this case, the artist being warned about started digging her own grave deeper, but I don't think [livejournal.com profile] breakspire was wrong to talk about her own experiences with either.

There's nothing wrong with sharing a personal experience even if it's counter to what happened in this instance. A sweetie-pie can snap and be nasty. It's not wrong for a person to share their experience. (Just to be clear, I'm not referring to either the OP or the artist in question in this post.)

Date: 2011-09-06 09:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breakspire.livejournal.com
I appreciate your comment. I really wasn't trying to be a "minion".

Date: 2011-09-06 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritlobo.livejournal.com
Not a problem :) I know you weren't, that's why I told you, so that others wouldn't pull the "lolol whiteknight!" card ;)

Date: 2011-09-06 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiritlobo.livejournal.com
Off topic, but seriously: that icon is so cute X3

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