Update: skullgrrl

[grygon.livejournal.com]

I had hoped that this next weekend I would post a "resolved" post but when I got home from my aunt's funeral tonight I found this message in my inbox:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6110810725/sizes/o/in/photostream/

She refers to a bad-dealings thread on taxidermy.net where the only new message I had posted in reply since posting here and getting to see this dispute nearly resolved was a link to her artists-beware post, pointing out how she had reacted to it. That was going to be my last post concerning her, plus the resolution post when I did get my plush. It seems the post was removed, and I have a few PMs on those forums urging me to post my warning again as my own warning, and not Bob's (I had only been replying to his post about his bad dealings with her to share my own).

Then I found this beauty:
(eta: gender slurs and threats of physical violence in link)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6116827145/sizes/o/in/photostream/
the top thread is from her fanpage on facebook and the very bottom of that image is from taxidermy.net. At the top she mentions giving me a day or so, and in her facebook PM the only thing she asks for is me removing my posts.

The images explain themselves, I think, but as I suspect from my first post on her:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/502139.html
her local fans are up in arms.

I am unsure what to do at this point. Thoughts?


ETA: Rereading that thread, I do want to clarify the "stay at home artist with no kids" comment that gets mentioned about the other forum as it seems to be lost on some critics: I meant that she was just a stay at home artist, and could not use kids as a valid reason for not working as that would be an understandable reason to me.

ETA2: Re: "wasn't allowed in skullgrrl's group" message below (frozen by mods, due to insults), I was a member and left of my own freewill for personal reasons and then got harassed for it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6118557424/sizes/o/in/photostream/

ETA3: so after being temp-banned here for her behavior, she posts this:
http://furhideandbone.livejournal.com/1270163.html
She makes some untrue statements in the comments as well as the main post, though that should be obvious to everyone by now. If there is a comment or statement she made that you want my side to just let me know. She does mention that I apologized to her here in the comments for some reason but I did not do that, at all, as can be seen.

ETA4: she deleted that post on furhideandbone. It got to around 40 comments (that I have saved via email if they're needed for whatever reason), mostly of people telling her to cool off. She deleted it and reposted this:
http://furhideandbone.livejournal.com/1270627.html
So here is a screen cap of the "witch hunt" she deleted from there:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29033586@N08/6119512262/sizes/o/in/photostream/

ETA5: I'm in the coffee shop now with nyaro and have picked up the plushie. Plushie-wise, this issue is resolved now. I'm in love all over again, it's like when I first got Babette who is my favorite ever.

Comments

[bridgeportcat.livejournal.com]

Honestly? If my friend started acting the way she's acting right now, I'd drop them in a heartbeat. Slurs? Threats of violence over a trade gone bad? No thanks, no one needs that in their life! That's just not how a decent human being behaves.

[frequentlynyaro.livejournal.com]

Like I said, I don't agree with her methodology. But anger is a powerful thing and it took her way too far. And I know for a fact she regrets it. That is enough for me, especially since I know she would not actually have done anything to Grygon. And especially since in spite of how angry she is, she's still going through with her side of the deal.

And if she had asked any of us to do anything for her in regards to this issue, I would've lost respect for her and probably quietly stayed out of it. But she didn't ask any of us to do anything. And we got dragged into it from the beginning anyways, without her ever having to even say a word about it. Grygon mentions from the start that she fears our group will get angry with her and uses us as "proof" against Grygon...so. This is also an attack against us. We had no chance even from the beginning because Grygon has already set us up as Darien's horrible empty-headed followers.

And I'm sorry if it seems odd to you that that would bother me, but it does. I am not stupid. I do not mindlessly follow. I do not revere artists, no matter how much I love their art. I decided to side with a friend, not only because we were already lumped in with her, but because when I compare the two Darien is the better person. I already had issues with Grygon before this, concerning myself and two other friends of mine. It is no surprise to me at all that Darien is having issues with her too.

[bubonicapple.livejournal.com]

you had no chance, even from the beginning? nobody here automatically decided you and your friends were evil people unworthy of a fair shake just because of one post by grygon.

i totally empathize with you in the sense that you want to defend your friend, especially since she is temporarily banned from here because of her conduct. but at the end of the day, a_b is no one's personal army. if skullgrrl had been rational and retained control of herself and posted her side of the story, the people here are nobody's pets and would have been able to piece together their own opinions.

as it stands, i'm not even 100% sure of what exactly went on, i have no idea what skullgrrl's story is, and i honestly do not care. her conduct and reaction and totally out of hand behaviour toward people who left advice or questions on her fhb thread is what ultimately coloured my opinion of her. if we hypothetically find out grygon is lying about everything under the sun, i would still never do business with skullgrrl. and that is of her own creation.

[frequentlynyaro.livejournal.com]

I guess it would be fairer to say I resent us being used against Darien from the beginning.

I know. :/ I wish she'd behaved differently but what's done is done. I've been trying to keep my comments mainly to putting right any errors regarding myself and my friends, but it's hard not to include Darien in that too.

And if I were in your shoes, I would feel the same way. I can't fault anyone for that. And I don't at all. I understand perfectly where you're coming from.

[wolf-goat.livejournal.com]

If anything people would have been more than eager to take Skullgrrl's side of the story since Grygon's already got some kind of bad rep. Not saying that's the right thing to happen but I'm pretty sure it would have.

[bridgeportcat.livejournal.com]

The problem is that she's still doing bad things, like the fur hide and bone post where she's constantly deleting comments aside from those of a mod. A good friend would sit her down and tell her to calm down for her own sake and the sake of her business. Consider doing this, if you haven't already.

[frequentlynyaro.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I didn't know about the latest of this until last night. I have spoken with her. As far as I know, she's calmed down a lot. However, I do not know all of the places this altercation has been posted to, so I don't know if she's stopped completely or not.

[bubonicapple.livejournal.com]

you've not done anything unwarranted by defending yourself and the way you were perceived on facebook, but i'd advise against speaking for skullgrrl and saying things like she's calmed down - the fhb shows she obviously has not, with her bizarre reply to the mod's remarks. just a tip, not trying to come across as a dick.

[frequentlynyaro.livejournal.com]

No it's true. I don't know what's going on over there so I really have no room to comment. ^^'

[bubonicapple.livejournal.com]

from my end, i think it's fair for you to stick up for yourself; i agree that i didn't see anyone doing anything besides attempting to comfort a pretty obviously distressed friend (and i do not doubt skullgrrl's distress in the least, her responses make that evident). however, i don't see too much of anyone demonizing you or your friends for it. what the issue is is that skullgrrl made such a violent post in the first place. but i think you also get that so we're basically just kicking the crap out of a horse corpse at this point.