[identity profile] 0acorn0.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] artists_beware

WHO:  Kee/Kyme/Inarolyn/Iaz/Janks/Len/Neicom


WHERE:  http://www.furaffinity.net/user/kee (all the above are also FA accounts that she has hopped between, but Kee is her current).


WHAT: Tracing. Most of the traces are partial and have been "frankensteined".


WHEN: This has been going on for awhile from what I have been able to figure.

EXPLAIN: Again, I was asked to post this here by several people after compiling multiple instances of her tracing of recent. A lot of people felt a public warning should be made, since she jumps accounts quite frequently. She's also traced several times in the past, but I haven't been able to locate the originals.


As an example, this is art from five-six months ago that she drew while living with me:
http://i44.tinypic.com/jzodv.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/jgo415.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/jt5hj5.png
She's never traced while living with me because I had gotten onto her in the past for copying other artists.


These are the traces I've found evidence of:
First example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820740/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6820732/    [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6595400/ [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i44.tinypic.com/s1kksm.jpg    [NSFW]



Second example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6894553/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6577848/    [NSFW]
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/25r1sh1.png   [NSFW]



Third example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898927
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6703170/
Overlay:
http://i39.tinypic.com/otfbcw.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/34r617b.jpg




Fourth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898413
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6057168/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/fljxvr.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/14m5abk.jpg



Fifth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898388
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6789179/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2ppzyx4.jpg



Sixth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6807846/
Traced from:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5060030/
Overlay:
http://i42.tinypic.com/yyp01.jpg

Edit:
Got shown these ones last night:
Seventh example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898399   [NSFW]
Traced from:
http://i42.tinypic.com/aekvg5.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i41.tinypic.com/ohis69.jpg   [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/2a7v9c4.png    [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/wsw93q.png    [NSFW]

Eighth example:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6811551/
Traced from:
http://i40.tinypic.com/zupcli.png     [NSFW]
Overlays:
http://i44.tinypic.com/350nrxh.jpg     [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/1042nn6.jpg    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/kdx5b8.jpg   [NSFW]




Almost all the traces have been of artists whom she's watching, the only exception being my own art.


Suspected traces:
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6852690/       [NSFW]
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6898425/    [NSFW]
http://i44.tinypic.com/xdruq0.jpg (from 2010)       [NSFW]
http://i42.tinypic.com/14kifzn.jpg (from 2010)     [NSFW]

There were a few others that were TCBY commissions that I am certain were traced, but I never saved the files.



As is evidenced, her anatomy flipflops from really well done, to filled with errors. If anyone can provide originals for some of the suspected traces, it'd be appreciated as well. NO ONE improves that greatly in a five month period, drawing as rarely as she does. I don't think everything she uploads/draws is traced, but much of it is.




Edit: Here's some more overlays with varying opacity's to give a clearer idea of where the lines are a perfect match.
http://i44.tinypic.com/206fmvt.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/2s9alas.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/2gw7v3o.jpg  [nsfw]
http://i43.tinypic.com/1j9nit.jpg   [nsfw]

Edit2:
I'm redacting my allegations of tracing, as I really don't want to be involved in any drama with this person to start with.


Edit3: I'm sorry, to make it more clear, I am retracting my allegations as there isn't sufficient evidence of tracing going on. I have posted apologies here and on FA.



Fixed overlays with proper aspect ratio:
http://i44.tinypic.com/rhj09f.jpg

Here it is in 3 different colors, still matching in the same areas. (I rotated it quickly, so it's not the exact same as the other overlays, but I'm too tired to redo all this again just to be perfect for the naysayers).
http://i39.tinypic.com/r0vw4h.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/de6ycw.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/mil4kh.jpg



http://i40.tinypic.com/nvnzx4.jpg

http://i43.tinypic.com/15i9g8j.png

There is no WAY any of the above have been distorted, as I did use the shift key as I was told.

Date: 2011-11-26 05:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aurastarlucario.livejournal.com
I don't ever remember her insulting you guys. :\


Just because she has a bad history with the person doesn't mean
she's lying. And tracing is tracing, whether it's just a handpaw, a leg, or the whole picture.


I'm not trying to be a dick but still. :c

Date: 2011-11-26 05:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sigilgoat.livejournal.com
It's insulting to come here attempting to call someone out, and when people do not agree with your initial intention, to then go to FA and say something else entirely.

Those that disagree are not saying "it's a partial trace its okay". We are not seeing ANY trace at all.

Last night I played around with my art and a few other artists to see if I could get things to match up. It was incredibly easy and took little effort. I even used body shapes completely different from the ones I draw and it wasn't hard at all to get hips, ribcages and shoulders to match up. I can't imagine how much easier it would be if they were the same body type.

There is a fundamental difference of opinion on whether or not it is a trace, not how big of a trace it is.

Date: 2011-11-26 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
GET OUT OF MY HEAD CHARLES.

Date: 2011-11-27 12:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ginkaruja.livejournal.com
THIS....was yet another thing I was concerned about. If you look hard enough, even when it's not there...you can find it.

Date: 2011-11-26 06:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lackoflollies.livejournal.com
by double-talking what she's saying/doing here on AB, versus what she's saying/doing on FurAffinity, is insulting in of itself.

Just because people here aren't outing and agreeing with her that Kee is a tracer like she had hoped, we're bad guys, and now she's going to FA to get the "Yea you're right! Kee is an awful person!" that she was looking for here, as sad as that is.

Date: 2011-11-26 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shukivengeance.livejournal.com
She might not have called anyone names, but having such a passive aggressive attitude and painting the entire community as trace apologists simply because some do not agree that any tracing has taken place, IS insulting.

Our members are allowed to state their opinion that a calf here or a buttcheek there lining up does not constitute enough evidence of blatant tracing to condemn a person. I was highly disappointed in Acorn for choosing to twist their words into "tracing is fine if it's only a little bit" because that's not what they said. Their statements were that - in their opinion - no tracing took place at all. Both statements are VASTLY different.

I did not bring up any past history she has with Kee so I'm not sure why you reference it now. It's not even relevant.

Like I said, I was on the fence about it, but I can't help but feel her conduct could have been so much better.

Date: 2011-11-26 06:35 pm (UTC)
ocelotish: A girl with an ocelot on her shoulders (Default)
From: [personal profile] ocelotish
This is pretty insulting: "I like the hypocrisy in attacking one artist for tracing some eyes, but when someone does partial traces of bodies, it's AWWWWWWWRIGHT. Good job, furries."

Not to mention how the OP is continually twisting our words in her journal.

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